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You likely know better than I, so I will not argue. Joel Send a noteboard - 24/10/2012 04:02:13 PM
The left wing liberals love to crow that it was, but really it was irrelevant for most people, and had absolutely no impact on Blair leaving or Labours fall. They even won an election after the fall of Iraq.

Blair left, he wasn't pushed, he knew they'd spent far more money than the UK could afford, had run up huge bills on the welfare state, NHS, public service workers. Brown had always wanted power, the deal had always been to give it to him, so after 10 years in power and facing the end, when the defining New Labour policies were Spin and Overspending (with a lot of one to hide the other), he walked. The crash happened a year later and Brown, who never had any charisma, and New Labour, were done.

I never liked Tony Blair, I never liked his policies on most things, I despised New Labour... but if he had stuck around, and gone for the 2010 General Election, I'm not sure he wouldn't have won.

I will happily toast the death of New Labour and pray it spreads across the pond: The New Left remains No Left; the Third Way, No Way. The sooner people realize that the sooner we will have more choices than "somewhat right" vs. "far right." It is nearly a century past time we quit pushing supply-side economics, in hopes jamming enough money into the top of the funnel makes it burst out the bottom. Invariably, there is far more "burst" than "out."

Ultimately, the welfare state is less about moral imperatives than pragmatic necessities: Working class consumer demand ALWAYS drives any non-monopolized economy. Supply is never the driver except for things everyone needs and can only get from a single source, which therefore has all control. Comprehensive supply-side economics is predicated on cheap labor and easy credit, which decimates the market on which investors and manufacturers depend for commerce. It is bad for everyone, as French and German investors discovered chasing GIPSI cheap labor and low interest rates until their own central banks had to loan the GIPSIs money just to maintain the process. When the dust cleared everyone was left with a lot of debt and very little production to repay it.
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Britain, the U.S's tenth closest ally. - 22/10/2012 10:17:25 PM 700 Views
The omission of Canada amuses me. - 22/10/2012 10:47:02 PM 626 Views
As well ask how France ranks so highly. - 22/10/2012 11:13:00 PM 461 Views
I think most Brits would dispute that "singlehandedly" statement. - 22/10/2012 11:17:59 PM 485 Views
I admit I am not British, but have never heard him criticized for anything unrelated to Iraq. - 22/10/2012 11:43:56 PM 565 Views
Iraq speeded up the end of his time on office and the tide of public opinio turning against him - 22/10/2012 11:53:41 PM 421 Views
Iraq seems like the touchstone, or at least the catalyst, as it has been for so many things. - 23/10/2012 01:26:44 AM 559 Views
Iraq wasn't the catalyst - 23/10/2012 08:04:42 PM 473 Views
You likely know better than I, so I will not argue. - 24/10/2012 04:02:13 PM 525 Views
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA - 23/10/2012 02:33:55 AM 482 Views
I think thats slightly unfair to say Labour was brought down as well - 23/10/2012 02:09:43 AM 598 Views
The Turkey statistic is a cause for worry. - 22/10/2012 11:21:44 PM 583 Views
Hasslehoff. - 22/10/2012 11:59:51 PM 461 Views
It's worth noting for everyone that those are outdated results. - 23/10/2012 12:33:56 AM 447 Views
Probably linguistic nuance - 23/10/2012 04:46:31 AM 467 Views
"Americans" vs. "America" - 23/10/2012 04:25:49 PM 452 Views

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