I am fine with it if all existing parties to the marriage consent to each addition.
Tim Send a noteboard - 20/10/2012 10:10:19 AM
Mostly we see "polygamy" as meaning "man is in charge, and can take as many wives as he wants". This is unfair on any wives who aren't willing to share him. And when we hear the word "bigamy", we usually think about a man from a monogamist section of society who has two families, each secret from the other. Both women are then shocked when the man is taken to hospital and they are both called to his bedside. This is obviously not OK.
But if a polygamist family wants legal recognition for an arrangement where additional adults can join the marriage with the consent of all those who are already in it, I don't see why they shouldn't have that recognition. We should only ban things that are harmful.
However, when it comes to the civil consequences of marriage, such as social security benefits and inheritance rights, the legislature would have to be careful not to give unfair advantages to polygamists. To take a simple example, if a state's inheritance law says that the spouse of someone who dies intestate inherits a maximum of $300,000 from the estate, with the remainder going to the deceased's children, that $300,000 should be split equally between all the surviving spouses in a polygamist family. They shouldn't get $300,000 each, as that would unfairly disadvantage the children.
Any state pension payable to widow(er)s should also be split. Over time this will even out, since after spouses 1 and 2 are both dead, spouse 3 will get a widow(er)'s pension (or a fraction of one) in respect of both. And so on. I realise it would get very complicated in some circumstances, but I'm sure the civil servants could work it out.
But if a polygamist family wants legal recognition for an arrangement where additional adults can join the marriage with the consent of all those who are already in it, I don't see why they shouldn't have that recognition. We should only ban things that are harmful.
However, when it comes to the civil consequences of marriage, such as social security benefits and inheritance rights, the legislature would have to be careful not to give unfair advantages to polygamists. To take a simple example, if a state's inheritance law says that the spouse of someone who dies intestate inherits a maximum of $300,000 from the estate, with the remainder going to the deceased's children, that $300,000 should be split equally between all the surviving spouses in a polygamist family. They shouldn't get $300,000 each, as that would unfairly disadvantage the children.
Any state pension payable to widow(er)s should also be split. Over time this will even out, since after spouses 1 and 2 are both dead, spouse 3 will get a widow(er)'s pension (or a fraction of one) in respect of both. And so on. I realise it would get very complicated in some circumstances, but I'm sure the civil servants could work it out.
Vigilantibus non dormientibus jura subveniunt.
—Nous disons en allemand : le guerre, le mort, le lune, alors que 'soleil' et 'amour' sont du sexe féminin : la soleil, la amour. La vie est neutre.
—La vie ? Neutre ? C'est très joli, et surtout très logique.
—Nous disons en allemand : le guerre, le mort, le lune, alors que 'soleil' et 'amour' sont du sexe féminin : la soleil, la amour. La vie est neutre.
—La vie ? Neutre ? C'est très joli, et surtout très logique.
For all you supporters of Gay Marriage: What about polygamy?
20/10/2012 12:02:06 AM
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Legal rights.
20/10/2012 12:14:10 AM
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should be legal, would be nice for poly people. should include polygyny and polyandry. *NM*
20/10/2012 03:29:05 AM
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Government needs to stop legislating morality. So yes *NM*
20/10/2012 03:36:37 AM
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That's a huge chunk of what government does.
20/10/2012 04:35:45 PM
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That's not what I'm saying
21/10/2012 03:21:08 AM
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So you're opposed to abortion and gun control then? Welcome aboard!
21/10/2012 06:14:14 AM
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Why do you keep talking about gay marriage and polygamy in the same sentence..
20/10/2012 03:58:26 AM
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Get a grip. Your response is just what I tried to avoid.
20/10/2012 04:33:40 AM
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The more fool you.
21/10/2012 05:55:30 AM
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This, and legal recognition of it, is precisely why marriage has become an Equal Protection issue.
22/10/2012 03:40:01 PM
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Because they are both violations of the paradigm of genuine marriage. Like it or not.
21/10/2012 05:49:32 AM
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I have no problem with polygamy being legal, but marriage is a privilege and can be limited to two.
20/10/2012 04:16:08 AM
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The only problem with that is that it was established with a heterosexist assumption
21/10/2012 06:33:32 AM
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From a legal perspective, all of your arguments are irrelevant
21/10/2012 03:12:39 PM
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This really is blatantly obvious, but still it might bear repeating...
21/10/2012 04:43:13 PM
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Yes, but only if its equal. Multi-people relationships should be more acceptable by society.
20/10/2012 05:15:24 AM
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"Polygamy" is the all-inclusive term; whether or not he meant it, he said it.
22/10/2012 04:31:09 PM
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I support autogamy in addition to various forms of exogenic relationships
20/10/2012 05:49:07 AM
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Have you seen the Glee episode where Sue Sylvester conducts a marriage of herself to herself? *NM*
20/10/2012 09:50:32 AM
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I am fine with it if all existing parties to the marriage consent to each addition.
20/10/2012 10:10:19 AM
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The case for polygamy has really weakened rather than strenghtened, you might say.
20/10/2012 03:53:34 PM
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I have no problem with it, but as Amy says, it's not really relevant. *NM*
20/10/2012 05:40:50 PM
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Legalize polygamy and create a familymaking process, but don't cover polygamy under marriage.
20/10/2012 10:14:58 PM
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The state shouldn't even recognize marriage beyond name changes anyway
21/10/2012 03:52:40 AM
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Indeed
21/10/2012 06:04:41 AM
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I don't give a damn what you call it. That's your business.
21/10/2012 06:17:40 AM
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And so?
21/10/2012 07:05:08 AM
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Re: And so?
21/10/2012 04:10:19 PM
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So can we call it garriage, give the same legal effect and call it good? *NM*
22/10/2012 03:28:33 AM
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According to your argument we could afford gay couples the same legal privileges...
22/10/2012 03:20:17 AM
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"...separate educational facilities are inherently unequal."
22/10/2012 04:45:31 PM
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That may well be the ideal solution. And also the most ironically amusing in how it would fail.
22/10/2012 07:35:05 PM
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We already went there and did that in '04, and yes, it was funny as f--k.
22/10/2012 09:51:49 PM
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Agreed in principle, but custody/cohabitation/assets go well beyond name change.
22/10/2012 04:37:09 PM
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This is the sort of thing that *needs* to be about principle
23/10/2012 04:54:10 AM
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Parental, property and other rights need government protection, and thus government involvement.
23/10/2012 05:14:37 AM
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Legal contracts must be open to all consenting adults, or none.
22/10/2012 03:11:55 PM
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You are correct, yet your reasoning is flawed.
23/10/2012 03:20:25 PM
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Again, the Equal Protection Clause has far less force on private entities than on government.
23/10/2012 03:52:06 PM
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Much less force, yes.
23/10/2012 04:15:03 PM
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The crux is "If it's my business, it's my business."
23/10/2012 04:43:25 PM
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Re: The crux is "If it's my business, it's my business."
23/10/2012 07:15:17 PM
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Like you said: By referring to "all invididuals" (or, better, "persons" or "citizens.")
24/10/2012 04:14:55 PM
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But we know very well that it doesn't have dire commercial consequences.
25/10/2012 07:17:55 PM
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I have several friends who practice polyamory, if they wanted to marry I would support it. *NM*
24/10/2012 06:47:58 PM
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