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i personally think obama has been pretty consistent with exception of gay marriage moondog Send a noteboard - 12/10/2012 05:58:31 PM
I wasn't trying to imply that I could easily do it. I really want to know how a liberal sees this. Is Obama honest? Does he ever say the politically expedient thing only to later say a politically expedient thing that contradicts it? Does he ever say one thing and do another?



he campaigned in 2008 as not necessarily being against gay marriage, but not exactly for it either. when it became obvious that he could not ignore the issue anymore he decided to "come out" in favor of it. on pretty much every other issue i've heard from obama, he has generally kept to his position.

one big point i like to make about how obama has kept his positions consistent is how he said in 2007 that the US has the right to send a strike force of some kind into pakistan whether they want us to or not if it meant taking out an al-qaeda target. this was pretty much exactly how the raid to kill osama bin laden went down, so i give obama full credit for sticking to that particular campaign promise.
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mitt romney debates himself moondog - 10/10/2012 09:11:37 PM 610 Views
One for you! Dragonsoul - 11/10/2012 01:59:50 PM 609 Views
One joke uses a man's words against himself, while the other does not. Not much of a rejoinder. Burr - 11/10/2012 03:25:52 PM 386 Views
or Obama debating Biden random thoughts - 11/10/2012 05:32:41 PM 396 Views
if it wouldn't take much effort, then get on it moondog - 11/10/2012 06:29:26 PM 460 Views
RT did provide an example of what he was talking about. Biden contradicted Obama's "no coal" pledge. Burr - 11/10/2012 06:33:23 PM 403 Views
but obama has never contradicted *himself* is pretty much the point moondog - 11/10/2012 07:45:37 PM 423 Views
You know what I really want? Burr - 11/10/2012 09:19:14 PM 444 Views
I think we need a Truth Party, with immediate dismissal for proof of lies connected to official duty Joel - 12/10/2012 02:46:57 PM 411 Views
more like we need laws that say you can't lie during news broadcasts - which includes debates moondog - 12/10/2012 06:00:34 PM 467 Views
you would have to throw every single one in jail random thoughts - 12/10/2012 06:10:03 PM 469 Views
so what Obama said to get elected the first time is old news and we should just ignore it? random thoughts - 12/10/2012 06:07:34 PM 401 Views
yeah, pretty much moondog - 12/10/2012 06:20:01 PM 454 Views
ah yes, i must have missed that quote that he never spoke at all anywhere in the known universe.... moondog - 11/10/2012 06:24:41 PM 389 Views
Long time no see, where've you been? Legolas - 11/10/2012 10:57:21 PM 508 Views
Everywhere and anywhere, doing my military service right now while also staying in school Dragonsoul - 12/10/2012 01:42:01 PM 489 Views
Wait, military service in which country - Canada or Italy? Legolas - 12/10/2012 06:26:17 PM 564 Views
I'm just curious... Narg - 11/10/2012 11:16:19 PM 569 Views
Did you miss the whole thread about "if you think that so easy, have at it"? Joel - 12/10/2012 02:49:52 PM 443 Views
I was asking a serious question. Narg - 12/10/2012 05:38:41 PM 413 Views
i personally think obama has been pretty consistent with exception of gay marriage moondog - 12/10/2012 05:58:31 PM 603 Views
no it is simply stating the obvious even if some have trouble seeing it random thoughts - 12/10/2012 06:11:29 PM 395 Views
Yes, but he looks so GOOD lying; the question is if Obama looks better. Joel - 12/10/2012 03:04:46 PM 453 Views
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