Unrelated business income is taxable under IRC 511. You know that.
Tom Send a noteboard - 27/09/2012 11:31:45 PM
If you want to get into deep tax policy, then I think that 501(c)(3)s should have to produce yearly reports that detail how money was spent. Some charities that use paid promoters and solicitors end up handing over as much as 80% (or more, in some extreme cases) of their profits to the for-profit groups. Those charities should lose their status, because essentially the government is losing tax revenue to employ people to harass families when they eat (and because charities are not considered commercial speech, the Do Not Call Registry doesn't apply to them). Of course, I managed to get all of them to stop calling me years ago by starting to ask them what percentage of their revenue went to the charity itself and what was spent on promotion, advertising and third party services. I noticed that they started hanging up on me and the calls stopped altogether a year later.
The point is that, in principle, I think that churches should be considered charities. Scientology, however, is clearly not a charity, but a tax dodge masquerading as a religion for the purpose of abusing the existing 501(c)(3) regulations and no-action letters. Of course, even then, they were able to defend their 501(c)(3) status, as I'm sure you're aware. I think that a re-write of the Code that gave the IRS the means to challenge Scientology again would probably result in a quick disbanding of that quack religion, especially now that their power base has imploded.
As for your last question, "What about religions that do more harm than good?", I think that it's a subjective question in most cases where the activity isn't blatantly criminal (and therefore not tax-exempt anyway). A Southern Evangelical would say that Islam and Judaism do more harm than good, insofar as they lack Christ and, lacking Christ, they lead their followers away from God. An atheist might say all religions do more harm than good because they reinforce quaint and anachronistic notions of the metaphysical makeup of the universe and impose a "big old guy in the sky" with arbitrary rules on a society that has advanced beyond that point.
The point is that, in principle, I think that churches should be considered charities. Scientology, however, is clearly not a charity, but a tax dodge masquerading as a religion for the purpose of abusing the existing 501(c)(3) regulations and no-action letters. Of course, even then, they were able to defend their 501(c)(3) status, as I'm sure you're aware. I think that a re-write of the Code that gave the IRS the means to challenge Scientology again would probably result in a quick disbanding of that quack religion, especially now that their power base has imploded.
As for your last question, "What about religions that do more harm than good?", I think that it's a subjective question in most cases where the activity isn't blatantly criminal (and therefore not tax-exempt anyway). A Southern Evangelical would say that Islam and Judaism do more harm than good, insofar as they lack Christ and, lacking Christ, they lead their followers away from God. An atheist might say all religions do more harm than good because they reinforce quaint and anachronistic notions of the metaphysical makeup of the universe and impose a "big old guy in the sky" with arbitrary rules on a society that has advanced beyond that point.
Political correctness is the pettiest form of casuistry.
ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius
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ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius
Ummaka qinnassa nīk!
*MySmiley*
Taxes and Charity
23/09/2012 04:57:07 AM
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Proof that Burr is .....
23/09/2012 05:05:37 AM
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Voting.
23/09/2012 06:43:12 AM
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Joel = Fool ; I vote every year, are you just saying random things now? *NM*
25/09/2012 01:42:49 AM
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"I am proud to say that I didn't vote for anyone in 2004."-Anonymous2000
25/09/2012 01:52:00 AM
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Do you have a reading comprehension problem?
25/09/2012 02:54:28 AM
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"Anyone" means "anyone;" perhaps you have a writing comprehension problem.
25/09/2012 03:39:11 AM
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Joel = Moron
25/09/2012 04:37:15 AM
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The statement was ambiguous, hence I was not the only one who read it as I did.
25/09/2012 05:19:46 AM
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I imagine much of Romney's charitable giving is to the Mormon Church.
23/09/2012 12:08:45 PM
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Almost all of my charitable giving goes to Mercy Corps
23/09/2012 03:48:30 PM
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I would argue that "our society" includes the rest of the world as well. *NM*
26/09/2012 03:24:02 PM
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Is the Mormon Church not part of society? But that issue is part of why I favor taxation. *NM*
23/09/2012 10:14:39 PM
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I'm part of society too. Does that mean I'm as worthy a recipient of money as the public purse? *NM*
23/09/2012 10:37:31 PM
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If you can get the IRS to certify you as a 501(c)(3), then yes. If not, no. *NM*
23/09/2012 11:07:13 PM
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To whatever extent that we should support charity beyond taxation, yes, you are, IMO.
24/09/2012 03:56:31 AM
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I agree with you
24/09/2012 11:25:14 AM
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I DISagree with both of you.
25/09/2012 02:36:05 AM
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Re: I DISagree with both of you.
25/09/2012 02:26:16 PM
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The difference there is between non-profit and for-profit organizations.
26/09/2012 04:09:00 AM
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At the risk of sounding like a fundamentalist...
23/09/2012 11:05:14 PM
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Local symphonies are usually charities
23/09/2012 11:21:07 PM
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Yes - cultural and educational non-profits are usually tax-deductible.
24/09/2012 01:57:13 PM
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Re: Yes - cultural and educational non-profits are usually tax-deductible.
24/09/2012 02:58:17 PM
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will you count Scientology as a church?
26/09/2012 03:26:53 PM
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Unrelated business income is taxable under IRC 511. You know that.
27/09/2012 11:31:45 PM
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Let's look at this from a different point of view....
24/09/2012 11:51:43 PM
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I covered that point of view in my response.
25/09/2012 03:31:38 AM
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I routinely do not read your posts (including this one)... Too long.
25/09/2012 04:12:24 PM
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Relating a typically long and tortuous experience with (private) bureaucracy was itself protracted.
26/09/2012 04:15:35 AM
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