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Clearer shot, but stills do not allow us to see where Tates hands were at all times. Joel Send a noteboard - 26/09/2012 02:10:25 AM
It does not look like his left hand was between Jennings' in the second shot, but it is impossible to know where it was a moment earlier/later. I stand by "simultaneous."
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/NFL: now that replacement refs have cost the packers a win, can we please get the real ones back? *NM* moondog - 25/09/2012 05:14:58 AM 713 Views
I was gonna keep it to one thread, but hell, I'll join yours. Dannymac - 25/09/2012 05:24:26 AM 807 Views
Link? Clip? Joel - 25/09/2012 05:27:07 AM 765 Views
Let's just say that Gruden used the word "Jobbed" in the live telecast. *NM* Dannymac - 25/09/2012 05:35:08 AM 487 Views
Here's a link. Dannymac - 25/09/2012 05:36:56 AM 866 Views
Yes and no; that is the link I referenced in my post. Joel - 25/09/2012 05:47:07 AM 682 Views
Re: Yes and no; that is the link I referenced in my post. Dannymac - 25/09/2012 05:52:55 AM 910 Views
Re: Yes and no; that is the link I referenced in my post. Joel - 25/09/2012 06:13:46 AM 867 Views
youtube link Orange - 25/09/2012 07:00:29 AM 891 Views
Thanks; that looks like a textbook case of simultaneous possession, which goes to the receiver: TD. Joel - 25/09/2012 07:29:28 AM 769 Views
pete carroll is a cheating douchebag, you cannot take his word for what happened moondog - 25/09/2012 10:59:33 AM 1030 Views
I did not; I watched the clip: Simultaneous possession, which goes to the receiver. Joel - 26/09/2012 01:30:18 AM 1371 Views
watch a better replay if you can moondog - 26/09/2012 02:38:17 AM 829 Views
Have now; still not convinced. Joel - 26/09/2012 04:01:23 AM 873 Views
that's ok. you're still wrong moondog - 26/09/2012 04:12:56 AM 884 Views
I know you are but what am I? *MN* Joel - 26/09/2012 04:48:47 AM 825 Views
also, the pass interference on tate that wasn't called is clear at 0:56 in that clip moondog - 25/09/2012 11:27:36 AM 850 Views
Tate was looking for the ball, and raised his hands to catch it, not push off Sam Shields. Joel - 26/09/2012 01:33:46 AM 794 Views
watch a better replay and get back to me on this one. moondog - 26/09/2012 02:36:43 AM 839 Views
Where did the NFL head office acknowledge that? Joel - 26/09/2012 03:52:36 AM 930 Views
in their official response to the whole incident....? moondog - 26/09/2012 04:14:52 AM 1064 Views
Fair enough then; the NFLs official position is that offensive PI should have been called. Joel - 26/09/2012 04:45:58 AM 859 Views
Yeah, if one hand counts as possession Dannymac - 25/09/2012 05:15:37 PM 851 Views
new rule: catch the guy who caught the ball -- score a TD *NM* moondog - 26/09/2012 12:10:05 AM 426 Views
Left hand between Jennings' arms and on the ball; right was outside Jennings' arm and on the ball. Joel - 26/09/2012 01:38:28 AM 786 Views
How have you not seen this play? Are you in a cave? *NM* Dark Knight - 25/09/2012 03:57:55 PM 403 Views
No, I am in Norway, where NFL coverage is rather limited. Joel - 26/09/2012 01:40:07 AM 977 Views
Wait, you're not in Houston? *NM* Dark Knight - 26/09/2012 01:42:45 AM 420 Views
Not since the Texas Sesquicentennial, no. Joel - 26/09/2012 01:45:29 AM 742 Views
While you can hardly blame the replacement refs because they are basically trainees... Mats Gambling Buddy - 25/09/2012 06:05:22 AM 948 Views
Now I really want to see this play. Joel - 25/09/2012 06:27:42 AM 964 Views
Re: Now I really want to see this play. Mats Gambling Buddy - 25/09/2012 02:48:56 PM 863 Views
I have still only seen the YouTube clip, but it looked like they both had both hands on the ball. Joel - 26/09/2012 01:58:27 AM 787 Views
There are good views on nfl.com. Will link. callandor1000 - 26/09/2012 02:16:51 AM 941 Views
Thanks; I still do not see much to change my mind. Joel - 26/09/2012 02:32:43 AM 877 Views
The last call was a joke. Orange - 25/09/2012 06:52:59 AM 824 Views
You might appreciate learning that the Lingerie Football League fired some of these refs Larry - 25/09/2012 07:19:37 AM 866 Views
Tie goes to the receiver - the rule for decades. The Packers benefitted from worse calls last year Cannoli - 25/09/2012 11:31:47 AM 883 Views
you probably think greedo shot first too..... moondog - 25/09/2012 01:49:03 PM 828 Views
Possession doesn't mean squat until you land. Tate had it by then Cannoli - 25/09/2012 03:13:29 PM 833 Views
he had nothing until they landed and he tried to pull it away. everyone but you agrees on this *NM* moondog - 25/09/2012 03:25:43 PM 393 Views
Not so; Cannoli and I agree on pretty much every point involved in this play. Joel - 26/09/2012 02:17:01 AM 805 Views
They can't reverse that call. Aemon - 25/09/2012 04:43:28 PM 917 Views
the only possible way was to rule it incomplete moondog - 25/09/2012 10:42:25 PM 896 Views
It was very obviously caught; you can't rule that incomplete. Aemon - 25/09/2012 11:06:17 PM 803 Views
my philosophy is "interception = incomplete" but i think that's only for stats purposes moondog - 26/09/2012 12:32:43 AM 776 Views
Congrats Cannoli, you are the only person (thing?) in the country who thinks it's a TD *NM* Dark Knight - 25/09/2012 03:53:18 PM 529 Views
I'm not even the only person in this thread, moron. *NM* Cannoli - 25/09/2012 04:07:48 PM 436 Views
Joel hasn't even seen the play, douchebag *NM* Dark Knight - 25/09/2012 04:12:35 PM 400 Views
Just so you can get this information without namecalling ... Nate - 25/09/2012 04:18:41 PM 798 Views
No I mean he hasn't seen the replay over and over on ESPN *NM* Dark Knight - 25/09/2012 04:21:46 PM 406 Views
I have seen enough of it, and while I did not write Cannolis response, I easily could have. Joel - 26/09/2012 02:06:45 AM 829 Views
Interesting. What is the rule with arguing refs? Dannymac - 25/09/2012 05:18:35 PM 752 Views
That response was disturbingly like my thoughts on the play. Joel - 26/09/2012 01:49:37 AM 838 Views
As a Seahawks fan. Stephen - 25/09/2012 02:10:58 PM 796 Views
No. Not with that attitude. *NM* Palatine - 25/09/2012 04:03:32 PM 386 Views
*throws public tantrum* *NM* moondog - 25/09/2012 10:39:22 PM 370 Views
Slightly (very) loopy yet entertaining piece on why Ayn Rand is to blame for all of this. Stephen - 25/09/2012 05:38:12 PM 767 Views
She hates revenue sharing, salary caps & the draft, too, but the Pack would be screwed without each. Joel - 26/09/2012 03:34:00 AM 799 Views
Here's the proof Cannoli is refusing to see Dark Knight - 25/09/2012 05:54:07 PM 893 Views
Clearer shot, but stills do not allow us to see where Tates hands were at all times. Joel - 26/09/2012 02:10:25 AM 699 Views
you can't claim "good ol' strip" *AND* simultaneous catch -- which is it? moondog - 26/09/2012 02:35:41 AM 1130 Views
I do not claim both: I claim simultaneous catch but IF not, then strip. Joel - 26/09/2012 03:51:47 AM 1130 Views
you sure you saw the right replay? moondog - 26/09/2012 04:21:57 AM 807 Views
Think so, yeah. Joel - 26/09/2012 04:58:15 AM 968 Views
from another angle -- pun intended moondog - 26/09/2012 04:01:54 PM 804 Views
There are two separate issues: 1) Was it a simultaneous catch; 2) IF not, was it a strip? Joel - 27/09/2012 08:54:52 AM 994 Views
your opinion is against pretty much everyone in the world, so..... *shrug* moondog - 27/09/2012 03:55:33 PM 1032 Views
Thanks; I did not expect you to give in so easily. Joel - 27/09/2012 10:14:30 PM 846 Views
did you even read that article??? moondog - 28/09/2012 12:35:39 AM 846 Views
"his control wasn’t established again...." Joel - 28/09/2012 01:08:03 AM 1240 Views
wow, what a thorough analysis you sent me either way, you're still wrong moondog - 28/09/2012 02:05:24 AM 949 Views
That is not an argument. Joel - 28/09/2012 02:26:58 AM 746 Views
Worst calls are made all the time by the regular officials. callandor1000 - 26/09/2012 01:23:57 AM 810 Views
yes, but not usually more than one per game, certainly not several in a single weekend.... *NM* moondog - 26/09/2012 02:39:56 AM 408 Views
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