I never said we should end diplomatic relations, just our economic, military and commercial presence
Joel Send a noteboard - 17/09/2012 06:08:36 PM
Remember how tense the protests against Mubarak were? Specifically, do you recall the White House making clear it did not want to see Mubaraks soldiers firing on protesters with US made and sold M-16s? Egypts new president is not placating Obama because he feels guilt over the embassy attack or some idealistic commitment to free speech: He does want to lose $1.6 billion in US aid (which we can ill afford,) or the other money Egypt earns from private US industry and trade. Yet given its demonstrated unpopularity in Egypt and costs (both material and human) to Americans, why should it continue?
Most of them do not want us there, and we derive dubious benefits (yet substantial risks) from being there: Why SHOULD we be there...?
Every time a military strongman turns US made weapons on oppressed millions demanding his ouster, his victims hate us a little more. Knowing (or believing) we only support him to secure our own regional strategic interests and ensure our multinationals profit deepens their hatred. We can end that without recalling ambassadors and severing diplomatic relations. We can talk with oppressive government without supporting them and thereby becoming complicit in their excesses.
Most of them do not want us there, and we derive dubious benefits (yet substantial risks) from being there: Why SHOULD we be there...?
Every time a military strongman turns US made weapons on oppressed millions demanding his ouster, his victims hate us a little more. Knowing (or believing) we only support him to secure our own regional strategic interests and ensure our multinationals profit deepens their hatred. We can end that without recalling ambassadors and severing diplomatic relations. We can talk with oppressive government without supporting them and thereby becoming complicit in their excesses.
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LoL. Be well, RAFOlk.
Has anyone here watched the trailer for Innocence of Muslims? It's so bad it's hilarious!
14/09/2012 10:36:50 PM
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I gave up before I got five minutes in - it's not even funny bad, it's just sad bad.
14/09/2012 10:56:43 PM
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You actually got through five full minutes? I skimmed it.
14/09/2012 11:16:35 PM
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It does remind one of that Pakistani imam who ripped pages out of the Qur'an...
14/09/2012 11:23:06 PM
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Exactly.
14/09/2012 11:55:52 PM
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Which is why I wish we would leave them to it.
15/09/2012 02:01:28 AM
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We should close our embassies and consulates? Great plan. *NM*
15/09/2012 11:08:01 AM
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I never said we should end diplomatic relations, just our economic, military and commercial presence
17/09/2012 06:08:36 PM
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Well that has worked for a long time in the West, so not a surprise it works in the Middle East also
15/09/2012 10:36:48 AM
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yeah, I've watched it the whole way through and agree with you on all points.
15/09/2012 02:25:36 AM
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It seemed very disjointed and bizarre to me... I only watched maybe 3 or 4 minutes. *NM*
15/09/2012 05:18:14 AM
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Cringe-worthy bad and not intentionally so, it seems
15/09/2012 10:37:53 AM
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I think one of the most interesting comments on this is relevant here
15/09/2012 11:12:10 AM
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