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Yeah, but Romney isn't running against 2008 Obama. He's running against a 4-year president. Burr Send a noteboard - 14/09/2012 02:35:22 AM
Anyone who thinks Obama's inexperience in 2008 should have been taken more seriously would be wise to apply that lesson learned when judging Romney in this election.

Edit: Which, to clarify, doesn't necessarily mean they'd be wrong to vote for Romney. I'm just saying you can't discount Romney's inexperience by virtue of Obama's 2008 inexperience. We aren't the same voters we were then; Obama isn't the same candidate he was then; and if anything, inexperience is more politically damning than it was then, by virtue of having had this learning experience.
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Question: did the Egyptian government apologize for letting a mob attack our embassy on 9/11/12? Tom - 12/09/2012 03:37:00 PM 1042 Views
I haven't seen it, but I honestly wasn't looking for that. nossy - 12/09/2012 04:00:39 PM 647 Views
The administration did issue an apology, which was stupid. Tom - 12/09/2012 04:21:04 PM 598 Views
Don't get me started. I'm not in the mood, and I might rip your face off. nossy - 12/09/2012 04:30:57 PM 503 Views
Try it. Tom - 12/09/2012 05:28:37 PM 546 Views
... No, thanks. *NM* nossy - 12/09/2012 05:39:30 PM 252 Views
Aw...I was hoping to see what "ripping off" my face would look like. *NM* Tom - 12/09/2012 05:56:41 PM 269 Views
Unfortunately, I'm much calmer today. nossy - 13/09/2012 03:47:20 PM 476 Views
I'm profoundly disappointed. Tom - 13/09/2012 05:22:54 PM 490 Views
Would you care to cite this apology the US administration issued? Joel - 12/09/2012 08:40:35 PM 633 Views
Timeline and statements Bored - 12/09/2012 09:20:39 PM 699 Views
I see: NO ONE EVER apologized to militants; Romney just wants to revive the "apology tour" lie. Joel - 12/09/2012 10:48:59 PM 497 Views
Only very specific people are getting the timeline wrong, because it suits them to do so. Joel - 12/09/2012 08:37:43 PM 653 Views
The apology, did u hear it on Fox news, and was that news report later redacted? Bc it didn't happen *NM* Aeryn - 13/09/2012 12:42:44 PM 231 Views
We can all differ on what we think constitutes an "apology". In my opinion, it did happen. *NM* Tom - 13/09/2012 02:10:02 PM 274 Views
What in particular do you think was an apology? *NM* Ghavrel - 13/09/2012 03:15:54 PM 241 Views
Even I can see why it could be viewed that way. nossy - 13/09/2012 03:30:29 PM 547 Views
what is stupid is deliberately distorting the actual statements in order to be outraged at obama moondog - 13/09/2012 04:01:04 PM 606 Views
I'm not outraged personally. Tom - 13/09/2012 05:14:59 PM 494 Views
Besides, the whole point of this post was to question Egypt's position, not Romney OR Obama's *NM* Tom - 13/09/2012 05:16:02 PM 276 Views
Uh huh... Joel - 15/09/2012 02:33:39 AM 515 Views
Don't know, don't care. Palatine - 12/09/2012 04:24:18 PM 525 Views
No government has apologized to anyone for the attacks, to my knowledge. Joel - 12/09/2012 05:37:45 PM 725 Views
So we're the only ones who apologized to anyone? That's disgusting. Tom - 12/09/2012 05:55:39 PM 622 Views
Re: So we're the only ones who apologized to anyone? That's disgusting. Bored - 12/09/2012 08:26:07 PM 683 Views
Dunno about apologies snoopcester - 12/09/2012 08:38:04 PM 534 Views
Clarification, please: Egypt arrested four of the perpetrators, or Libya (or both)? Joel - 12/09/2012 08:45:11 PM 723 Views
Egypt. snoopcester - 12/09/2012 08:55:37 PM 645 Views
Ah, thanks. Joel - 12/09/2012 11:01:22 PM 518 Views
WE have not apologized to anyone; the embassy staff (unsuccessfuly) tried to prevent a riot. Joel - 12/09/2012 08:35:16 PM 612 Views
Yeah, we Egyptians should be thankful for Obama. Praziquantel - 12/09/2012 09:59:28 PM 592 Views
Never said that, but bashing him for both supporting and NOT supporting Mubarak is asinine. Joel - 12/09/2012 11:43:08 PM 614 Views
No, but "our country is stronger, safer and more respected in the world" *NM* Praziquantel - 12/09/2012 10:04:03 PM 262 Views
does anyone know where Romney actually stands on this? snoopcester - 12/09/2012 11:26:47 PM 552 Views
NO ONE is as confused as Romney. Joel - 12/09/2012 11:48:23 PM 608 Views
I don't know if he's confused... DomA - 13/09/2012 12:09:16 PM 605 Views
Romney never "had" the foreign press to lose... Tom - 13/09/2012 02:08:59 PM 558 Views
Sadly for Romney the American press is almost as biased against him as over there. *NM* random thoughts - 13/09/2012 09:53:25 PM 237 Views
Re: Romney never "had" the foreign press to lose... DomA - 14/09/2012 01:06:38 AM 504 Views
The campaign is still running - it's not as if anybody expected anything intelligent from him. Legolas - 13/09/2012 09:19:12 PM 696 Views
If we were scared of unprepared leaders we never would have picked Obama random thoughts - 13/09/2012 09:51:45 PM 534 Views
Re: If we were scared of unprepared leaders we never would have picked Obama DomA - 14/09/2012 01:25:13 AM 620 Views
People keep talking about Obama as a change from the Bush era but what di he really change? random thoughts - 14/09/2012 10:54:18 AM 588 Views
Re: People keep talking about Obama as a change from the Bush era but what di he really change? DomA - 15/09/2012 01:55:42 AM 522 Views
Yeah, but Romney isn't running against 2008 Obama. He's running against a 4-year president. Burr - 14/09/2012 02:35:22 AM 625 Views
But Romney is very experienced and Obama wasn't random thoughts - 14/09/2012 11:14:08 AM 674 Views
obama can speak without putting his foot in his mouth, romney can't moondog - 14/09/2012 04:01:38 PM 610 Views
to bad he can't do it in all 57 states without offending people who live god and guns random thoughts - 14/09/2012 04:11:50 PM 526 Views
you're living in the past moondog - 14/09/2012 05:46:26 PM 468 Views
The popular vote will win the election or Obama will be lamest lame duck in history random thoughts - 14/09/2012 06:25:21 PM 627 Views
except "you didn't build that" is in reference to the US infrastructure not actual business moondog - 14/09/2012 09:31:29 PM 607 Views
Well, at this point it is hard to say he is not at least factually challenged. Joel - 14/09/2012 04:40:13 PM 624 Views
Re: Well, at this point it is hard to say he is not at least factually challenged. DomA - 15/09/2012 03:47:07 PM 693 Views
"Either you're with us or you're with the terrorists." Joel - 17/09/2012 05:28:19 PM 623 Views
He appears to be buckling down on the lie that the embassy apologized to the protesters. *NM* Ghavrel - 13/09/2012 03:04:57 AM 224 Views
Can Egypt afford to apologize at the moment? Larry - 14/09/2012 03:21:53 AM 587 Views
Oh great now it's our embassy in Sudan that is on fire ironclad - 14/09/2012 02:12:21 PM 576 Views
I suspect there is a very perverse dynamic at work here. Joel - 14/09/2012 04:57:28 PM 628 Views
I love how the media are tying all this to a movie that no one watched. Praziquantel - 14/09/2012 03:22:38 PM 505 Views
What's this about then? nossy - 15/09/2012 12:21:45 AM 493 Views
Wish I knew Praziquantel - 15/09/2012 03:43:32 AM 522 Views
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