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Re: I think the organic movement is mostly a big scam: an excuse to charge more money for less food. kHz1000 Send a noteboard - 13/09/2012 11:05:37 AM
The worst thing is that nobody knows what it means. As Isaac points out, all food is made of organic compounds, as it's all carbon-based. So obviously that's not what's meant. Originally it seemed to mean not genetically modified – this was back when loads of people were banging on about how we shouldn't "play God" with our food. Then it somehow turned into no chemical pesticides. And what if stuff is artificially bulked up by injecting it with water? I assume there must be rules about this kind of thing, but I don't believe there's any public awareness of them. I can't even find a definition on the website of DEFRA, which certifies organic food in the UK.

In Romance and Slavic languages "organic" is consistenly translated as either organic, ecological or biological. (for example biologique in French). Biological doesn't make much sense either. Finnish is ingenious, IMO, since we coined a whole new word (luomu) from the existing word "luonnonmukainen", meaning natural.
Your point about water-injected food is excellent. It goes against the ideas of organic food (you shouldn't mislead customers) but I didn't find any actual rules in the EU directives ( 834/2007 and 889/2008 ). Well, I've only read about 10% of them as schoolwork. I'd be very surprised if it isn't mentioned, though. Everything else is, and very painstakingly.

I honestly think a lot of people who buy organic do so because they think it's more moral in some undefined way, or even just that if it's more expensive it must be better. For all I know there may well be benefits to organic food*, but if so, nobody's told me what they are in a way that makes sense.

*By which I mean food that is labelled as organic in supermarkets, as opposed to any individual's opinion about what constitutes "real" organic food.
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