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Works for me. Joel Send a noteboard - 08/09/2012 12:18:02 PM
Forget capital punishment (I have my own doubts about its efficacy as a deterrant - my support for the concept is based on the terminal outcome), this is a clear cut case of the importance of castle law, stand your ground laws, and the right to bear arms. As this case shows, reporting a threat to the authorities is far more complicated than that solution is presented by those who seek to give law enforcement a monopoly on weapons. While this is an extreme case (and given the circumstances, an argument could be made that it could be a case of "he-said, she-said" though the described method of entry and marital situation of the deceased render his innocence unlikely), there are still limitations to the ability of law enforcement to handle such things, leaving a gap between proper respect for civil rights and proper empowerment of the authorities to restrain crime. Giving people the freedom to act in their own defense is the best solution to all sorts of injustices from sexual harassment on up. The abstract possibility of lethal punishment IF you get caught, and IF you get convicted and IF you get sentenced and IF your appeals and other recourse fails, cannot be nearly the deterrant of the increased liklihood of encountering armed opposition to whatever violation you are attempting to perpetrate.

It makes me wonder why we put up with the TSA, when THEY have failed to stop a single terrorist attack, while the one 911 plane that failed to hit its target did so because of the actions of the very class of people the TSA & FAA seek to disarm, restrict and invade the privacy thereof.

Well, the biggest argument for not letting airline passengers handle terrorists the same way is that turning a plane into the OK Corral at 40,000 feet dramatically raises the likelihood of literally explosive decompression.

The irony in this case is that the womans pregnancy may be critical to proving she was raped. Since the accused rapist was a family member, even finding his DNA in her home would not prove much unless it were on the equivalent of a blue dress. In fact, even if she can prove they had sex that would not prove he forced her. I do not know the Turkish legal system though; if they attach anything like the importance we do to reasonable doubt, I would expect her to be acquitted of murder, because proving she was NOT acting in self defense is likely to be just as hard as proving she was.

As far as castle law, stand your ground, etc. I cannot disagree with you. I understand some places do it, but have never understood WHY anyone would claim a duty to retreat exists in ones own home. Even were I willing to concede the concepts general validity, having ones back to the wall exhausts any duty to retreat.
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Turkish Woman Awaits Trial after Beheading Her Alleged Rapist - 08/09/2012 02:48:21 AM 822 Views
God made men and women; Samuel Colt made them equal. - 08/09/2012 05:09:44 AM 439 Views
Fuck. we actually agree on something. - 08/09/2012 05:47:46 AM 581 Views
Works for me. - 08/09/2012 12:18:02 PM 535 Views
I couldn't disagree more with your summary. Way to sound like a civilized world, ca. 2012. - 08/09/2012 12:01:47 PM 439 Views
I agree. *NM* - 08/09/2012 03:49:33 PM 131 Views
And I couldn't disagree more with yours. *NM* - 08/09/2012 04:40:06 PM 168 Views
I actually have to side with Joel on this one. - 09/09/2012 12:24:30 PM 399 Views
When it comes to a mild or no punishment for her, sure. - 09/09/2012 02:50:11 PM 362 Views
The sad part is that she felt this was her only choice - 08/09/2012 01:47:10 PM 425 Views
Indeed. *NM* - 08/09/2012 02:10:37 PM 150 Views
Yes. *NM* - 08/09/2012 03:19:01 PM 147 Views
You think that doesn't happen in the West? - 09/09/2012 12:26:30 PM 352 Views
Sadly there is still a stigma to being a vicitim - 09/09/2012 04:32:37 PM 353 Views
There's something so viscerally raw in this that I just love. - 09/09/2012 12:07:19 AM 360 Views
So sometimes sensationalism is a GOOD thing? - 09/09/2012 02:28:13 AM 355 Views
it does make a statement *NM* - 09/09/2012 05:36:54 AM 177 Views

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