Your response highlights very well that the problem with the wars that we fought was that we were trying to engage in nation building. I understand that the post-World War II thinking was that by nation building we would ensure that our former enemies became friends, but we see in recent wars that this does not work.
When we look at the cost of the Iraq War, we see most of the cost was associated with the "nation building" aspect. If, instead of wasting that money, we just blew the living shit out of everything and left the country in ruins, it would probably deter the next nation that was "defying the US".
Specifically, if we took that approach with Iran we could bomb them for 90-180 days without respite, hitting State TV, the Ayatollah's home, Khomenei's Tomb, all indicia of power, all oil refineries, and destroy the regime completely without putting one boot on the ground. Hit the State Bank, hit the Basij buildings, hit everything associated with the Revolutionary Guard. Destroy the physical, economic and symbolic supports for the system, and then stop when there is no power left.
If it doesn't lead to a total collapse of the criminal regime of the Ayatollah, then we can repeat it every year or so for a couple of months until the regime collapses economically or politically.
And then they can rebuild with loans or advance oil sales, not with our money.
One thing that I disagree with Republicans on regarding the auto bailout is that I think after all the money we just dumped down the shitter in Iraq and Afghanistan building stuff that they blew up a week later, we can invest in our own damn industry.
But I digress.
When we look at the cost of the Iraq War, we see most of the cost was associated with the "nation building" aspect. If, instead of wasting that money, we just blew the living shit out of everything and left the country in ruins, it would probably deter the next nation that was "defying the US".
Specifically, if we took that approach with Iran we could bomb them for 90-180 days without respite, hitting State TV, the Ayatollah's home, Khomenei's Tomb, all indicia of power, all oil refineries, and destroy the regime completely without putting one boot on the ground. Hit the State Bank, hit the Basij buildings, hit everything associated with the Revolutionary Guard. Destroy the physical, economic and symbolic supports for the system, and then stop when there is no power left.
If it doesn't lead to a total collapse of the criminal regime of the Ayatollah, then we can repeat it every year or so for a couple of months until the regime collapses economically or politically.
And then they can rebuild with loans or advance oil sales, not with our money.
One thing that I disagree with Republicans on regarding the auto bailout is that I think after all the money we just dumped down the shitter in Iraq and Afghanistan building stuff that they blew up a week later, we can invest in our own damn industry.
But I digress.
Political correctness is the pettiest form of casuistry.
ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius
Ummaka qinnassa nīk!
*MySmiley*
ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius
Ummaka qinnassa nīk!
*MySmiley*
Biden claims Romney wants war with Syria and Iran.
02/09/2012 10:48:24 PM
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Meh. Sounds like a non-story. But my thoughts, for what they're worth.
02/09/2012 11:05:52 PM
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Biden should be busy preparing to debate Ryan so he is not shredded, instead of saying stupid things
02/09/2012 11:52:35 PM
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We should introduce a new military doctrine
03/09/2012 02:46:33 AM
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I still think the post-war Axis powers the best model, but that requires equivalent manpower.
03/09/2012 03:57:12 AM
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It's a terrible model.
03/09/2012 11:42:36 PM
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Re: It's a terrible model.
04/09/2012 04:09:21 AM
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I recently read Stephen Ambrose's Band of Brothers, about a regiment from the 101st in WW2.
04/09/2012 10:29:01 PM
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wars they didn't start themselves? how do you figure that?
04/09/2012 10:45:07 PM
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We cannot hold all Afghanistan/Iraq accountable for governments against which they were powerless.
04/09/2012 11:54:46 PM
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so what? Governments habe always been who goes to war
05/09/2012 02:55:25 AM
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True, but we cannot hold people responsible for actions of their undemocratic governments.
05/09/2012 03:19:20 AM
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well thanks to the US they now have democratcily elected governments and can be held accountable *NM*
05/09/2012 02:30:41 PM
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Democratically elected? We will be propping it up with the US Army for at least two more years.
05/09/2012 07:19:21 PM
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being propped up by the US military doesn't make it not a democracy
05/09/2012 07:29:42 PM
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Political power that comes out of the barrel of a gun precludes democracy.
05/09/2012 09:01:40 PM
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it was always a lost cost and all governments are backed up by the barrel of a gun
05/09/2012 09:49:51 PM
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No more so than Iraq, but at least there was a threat to America to fight in Afghanistan.
23/09/2012 04:51:14 AM
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I said start. I quite agree with you about the things that went on after the wars themselves ended.
05/09/2012 08:51:58 PM
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shooting at our aircraft is none hostile?
05/09/2012 10:06:07 PM
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It is very difficult to reconcile this post with Toms.
04/09/2012 11:50:06 PM
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Hey, remember when Bush invaded Iraq? For no reason at all, it turned out?
03/09/2012 01:56:49 AM
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Realistically, I don't think Romney would do MUCH different. But that little bit...
03/09/2012 02:19:14 AM
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After all the moeny he took from Sheldon Adelson he HAS to attack Iran. Adelson will foot the bill. *NM*
03/09/2012 05:19:27 AM
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I don't think Romney is that interested in starting a war with anyone
04/09/2012 02:39:14 PM
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