Hamilton loudly and often advocated a central bank, national debt and active federal government.
Joel Send a noteboard - 01/09/2012 08:41:50 PM
Both were talking about the first steps of government.....everything was tiny and small about the federal government, well, until FDR. So I wouldn't classify either as "big government".
But yes, Jefferson as President did greatly grow the federal government and the power of the Presidency. So.....
But yes, Jefferson as President did greatly grow the federal government and the power of the Presidency. So.....
That is a matter of record whether you buy it or not. Jefferson opposed big government so strongly he nearly rejected the Louisiana Purchase because Congress only authorized $5 million to buy New Orleans, not $15 million to buy a third of the continental US. Jefferson founded the Democratic-Republican Party to oppose Hamiltons Federalists and their platform of strong active federalism; that, once again, is a matter of well documented record: Disputing it is denying US history.
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This message last edited by Joel on 01/09/2012 at 08:48:00 PM
Anybody here ever studied the founding fathers of America?
- 30/08/2012 07:34:28 PM
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Slave-owning, mysoginist, wig-wearing members of the landed elite?
- 30/08/2012 07:51:33 PM
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No, never, not even briefly. 
- 30/08/2012 07:57:39 PM
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- 30/08/2012 07:57:39 PM
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What? Nooooo way
- 30/08/2012 08:06:30 PM
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- 30/08/2012 08:06:30 PM
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My US history class was an hour long and I always got distracted by a butterfly or something.
- 30/08/2012 08:50:39 PM
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Did you just kinda compare yourself to the founding fathers?
- 30/08/2012 08:08:40 PM
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- 30/08/2012 08:08:40 PM
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Not positively, but I have often thought they were a bad influence on me. 
- 30/08/2012 08:21:48 PM
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- 30/08/2012 08:21:48 PM
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Funny, my reaction to sentences like those is nearly the opposite.
- 30/08/2012 08:11:34 PM
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Fair point; it is revealing that none of the Bill of Rights amendments have multiple sections.
- 30/08/2012 08:39:24 PM
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You're projecting. *NM*
- 31/08/2012 12:48:12 AM
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I am aspiring.
- 31/08/2012 01:09:40 AM
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As a personal aside ...
- 31/08/2012 01:43:45 AM
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Like I say, maybe I invest too much in online posting.
- 31/08/2012 02:02:58 AM
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- 31/08/2012 02:02:58 AM
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Re:
- 31/08/2012 02:27:00 AM
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Re: Re:
- 31/08/2012 02:37:35 AM
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Well
- 31/08/2012 02:54:25 AM
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It does get repetitive too often.
- 31/08/2012 05:07:41 AM
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Doesn't really matter. You're gonna keep doing it. 
- 31/08/2012 05:16:23 AM
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- 31/08/2012 05:16:23 AM
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I did. They smelled of mahogany and death. They looked scabby and skeletal.
- 31/08/2012 12:35:44 AM
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Don't forget Hamilton! The creator of the American economy..... *NM*
- 31/08/2012 05:19:50 AM
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... and big government.
- 01/09/2012 01:54:20 PM
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I don't really buy that.....
- 01/09/2012 08:33:28 PM
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Hamilton loudly and often advocated a central bank, national debt and active federal government.
- 01/09/2012 08:41:50 PM
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I think the entire Age of Enlightenment is fascinating
- 31/08/2012 06:32:23 PM
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You realize you just made a great argument for intelligentsia rule, right?
- 01/09/2012 01:48:58 PM
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- 01/09/2012 01:48:58 PM
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I would want better intelligenstia first
- 01/09/2012 02:48:28 PM
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Ah, the old uneducated>miseducated argument.
- 01/09/2012 03:39:07 PM
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*wonders if we could test*
- 02/09/2012 02:45:10 PM
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no there is a better reason why it wouldn't work
- 02/09/2012 02:58:18 PM
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I listen to some of supposed intellectuals talk and I am unimpressed
- 02/09/2012 02:53:21 PM
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Being well read does not make one smart, but does facilitate it to a great degree.
- 02/09/2012 04:32:05 PM
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I like the Starship Trooper approach
- 02/09/2012 05:04:17 PM
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I run very hot and cold on that one.
- 02/09/2012 06:28:44 PM
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What was that again about "you have a right to your own opinion, not your own facts"?
- 03/09/2012 06:39:01 PM
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Ah, right; I had forgotten our previous discussion of conscriptions termination in the '90s and '00s
- 03/09/2012 06:48:28 PM
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If you worked with more engineers you might change your opinion on the science degree part
- 04/09/2012 03:00:16 PM
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Maybe; I would likely just conclude horse sense is uncommon everywhere, but less so in engineers.
- 05/09/2012 12:11:58 AM
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