The absence of either filter or rebuttal diminishes the informative value of conventions.
Joel Send a noteboard - 01/09/2012 03:21:03 PM
This article below is not me speaking, yet I did the bold for emphasis
Conventions: A great learning opportunity for voters
Why the debate over a lack of news misses the point
By Brendan Nyhan
Every four years, the two presidential candidates do battle in a series of high-stakes televised events that could shape the outcome of the campaign. They also take part in some highly scripted programming where little real news is made and few viewers’ minds are changed.
Voters who take the word of elite political journalists would be forgiven for thinking that the first events are the presidential debates and the second are the party conventions, but as the political scientists Robert Erikson and Christopher Wlezien show, the truth is actually the opposite (see also James Stimson’s Tides of Consent, which reaches a similar conclusion). Party conventions help to remind partisans who have strayed from their core views what they really believe and also influence independents who don’t have strong links to either party, creating bounces in the polls that frequently persist through the end of the campaign. By contrast, the well-practiced exchanges that dominate presidential debates rarely provide the game-changing moments that the media loves to pretend are commonplace. Indeed, the debates occur too late to have much effect in all but the closest races.
Instead, however, the tedious quadrennial debate over the value of convention coverage has mistakenly centered, as it usually does, on their news value. It’s true in a narrow sense that little “news” is made at the conventions these days, but bean-counting juxtapositions of the costs of coverage and the likelihood of important news being made miss the point. News outlets don’t want the same convention story as every other media organization and are willing to pay more for their own in-house version, which leads them to devote more attention to the conventions to justify their investment in that coverage. In that sense, the costs of reporting from Tampa and Charlotte are a small price to pay for the civics lessons that the conventions provide.
So why are so many journalists deriding the conventions as hours-long infomercials even as my fellow political scientists defend their merits? The problem, in short, is that the conventions undermine journalistic “voice.” In every other aspect of the campaign, the candidates and their messages are filtered through journalists who are reticent to allow them to speak or be quoted at any length without interpretation or analysis. While scrutinizing policy proposals and fact-checking their claims can be valuable exercises, far more coverage displaces the candidates’ messages in favor of ill-informed horse race analysis and theater critic-style analysis of the “optics” of the campaign. Unlike the debates, which are moderated by journalists, the conventions allow the parties and the candidate to speak to voters unfiltered in prime time. That may be threatening to the professional status of journalists, but it’s good for America.
Conventions: A great learning opportunity for voters
Why the debate over a lack of news misses the point
By Brendan Nyhan
Every four years, the two presidential candidates do battle in a series of high-stakes televised events that could shape the outcome of the campaign. They also take part in some highly scripted programming where little real news is made and few viewers’ minds are changed.
Voters who take the word of elite political journalists would be forgiven for thinking that the first events are the presidential debates and the second are the party conventions, but as the political scientists Robert Erikson and Christopher Wlezien show, the truth is actually the opposite (see also James Stimson’s Tides of Consent, which reaches a similar conclusion). Party conventions help to remind partisans who have strayed from their core views what they really believe and also influence independents who don’t have strong links to either party, creating bounces in the polls that frequently persist through the end of the campaign. By contrast, the well-practiced exchanges that dominate presidential debates rarely provide the game-changing moments that the media loves to pretend are commonplace. Indeed, the debates occur too late to have much effect in all but the closest races.
Instead, however, the tedious quadrennial debate over the value of convention coverage has mistakenly centered, as it usually does, on their news value. It’s true in a narrow sense that little “news” is made at the conventions these days, but bean-counting juxtapositions of the costs of coverage and the likelihood of important news being made miss the point. News outlets don’t want the same convention story as every other media organization and are willing to pay more for their own in-house version, which leads them to devote more attention to the conventions to justify their investment in that coverage. In that sense, the costs of reporting from Tampa and Charlotte are a small price to pay for the civics lessons that the conventions provide.
So why are so many journalists deriding the conventions as hours-long infomercials even as my fellow political scientists defend their merits? The problem, in short, is that the conventions undermine journalistic “voice.” In every other aspect of the campaign, the candidates and their messages are filtered through journalists who are reticent to allow them to speak or be quoted at any length without interpretation or analysis. While scrutinizing policy proposals and fact-checking their claims can be valuable exercises, far more coverage displaces the candidates’ messages in favor of ill-informed horse race analysis and theater critic-style analysis of the “optics” of the campaign. Unlike the debates, which are moderated by journalists, the conventions allow the parties and the candidate to speak to voters unfiltered in prime time. That may be threatening to the professional status of journalists, but it’s good for America.
They ARE little more than week-long infomercials, hence largely unnoticed except by the partisan bases. Saying they trump debates because the latter only matter in close elections ignores several things:
1) Convention "bumps" usually cancel out each other,
2) Most national races in the modern era are fairly close and, most importantly,
3) Outside close races, conventions are at least as irrelevant as debates.
Sure, conventions allow the partys a week of prime time national media to frame the narrative in their own favorable terms, but how does that benefit anyone else? We can tell how much they influence the vote by how much time the second convention devotes to rebutting the first ones claims: Virtually none, except for those already dissected by those unwelcome journalists (expect the Dems to eviscerate Paul Ryans lies next week.)
Show me a convention that changed any election. Even the Dems disaster in '68 only highlighted the splintering of FDRs Big Tent that had already doomed Humphrey.
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how to make political convention speeches more entertaining
31/08/2012 03:57:11 PM
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and how fact checks the fact checkers? *NM*
31/08/2012 05:19:45 PM
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Fox, presumably.
31/08/2012 06:05:56 PM
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the fact checkers tend be journalist and deserve all the trust that goes with that *NM*
01/09/2012 10:36:18 AM
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Facts are facts, and not in the eye of the beholder.
01/09/2012 12:08:41 PM
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That might be true if fat checkers limited themsleves to facts and not opinion
01/09/2012 02:44:41 PM
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Stating opinions as fact invites checking them as facts.
01/09/2012 02:59:23 PM
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I will let Scott Wlaker explain it to you
01/09/2012 05:56:00 PM
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Even Walker admits "It’s closed — has been as long as Obama has been president."
01/09/2012 06:27:32 PM
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well since Ryan never claimed Obama caused the plant to close it doesn't matter when it closed
01/09/2012 08:10:26 PM
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How could he save a plant already closed?
01/09/2012 08:31:55 PM
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It's obvious.
01/09/2012 10:12:33 PM
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what is obvious is despite him saying they would his policies didn't save the plant
02/09/2012 09:48:08 PM
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If he could save it he shouldn't have he could but he did say he could
02/09/2012 09:43:56 PM
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The video says his comments were 2 Feb, 2008, when the plant was open;when he took office it was not
02/09/2012 10:26:46 PM
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Then what would Daily Show and Colbert do every night if someone does their work for them? *NM*
31/08/2012 09:38:17 PM
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presumably they would have plenty of other material to work with.... *NM*
01/09/2012 06:33:33 AM
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I loathe the conventions, but this will make it worse
01/09/2012 03:52:15 AM
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you're talking about what people who already follow these things do
01/09/2012 06:40:42 AM
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We fundamentally disagree
01/09/2012 01:54:26 PM
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The absence of either filter or rebuttal diminishes the informative value of conventions.
01/09/2012 03:21:03 PM
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