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a 58-2 record in arbitration suggests something is not quite right, imho moondog Send a noteboard - 29/08/2012 04:02:59 PM
of course, i can't find any info on the two losses so i'm sorry i can't offer more than just conjecture as to why arbitration is so successful for USADA. but, by its nature, arbitration is the last word in a dispute, so there will be no appeal once the decision comes down, otherwise it's mediation and not arbitration. the process seems to be stacked against the athletes in general, not just specific to lance armstrong himself. but then, i am a less than casual fan of cycling and a non-interested party in this particular drama so i'm not going to pretend i have a stake in this story.

i will end with this though: if armstrong cheated, then yes he deserves to have whatever punishment is fitting to someone who took drugs to gain an advantage over his competitors. but if the world of cycling is as corrupt as you insinuated in your previous post, then perhaps the entire sport should be done away with and everyone who participates should find another sport to occupy their need to compete. i am thinking about previous replies to this thread showing that the vast majority of the top riders in the tours armstrong won were all convicted of doping, and your previous post saying the UCI can't be trusted and i am wondering what exactly is holding it all together? if all the top riders cheat, and the agency involved with enforcement is mishandling samples, and the agency involved in creating the rules and awards is on the take, what the hell is everyone still competing for?
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Lance Armstrong - drugs cheat. - 24/08/2012 10:51:35 AM 1456 Views
You mean giving up in disgust after relentless hounding? - 24/08/2012 11:34:05 AM 766 Views
No, I meant what I said - 24/08/2012 12:08:05 PM 846 Views
Delighted - 24/08/2012 12:21:12 PM 723 Views
Re: Delighted - 24/08/2012 12:36:20 PM 985 Views
you think the case against Contador is fishy but you cheerlead the witch hunt of Armstong? - 25/08/2012 04:11:23 AM 748 Views
No. Can you please reread what I actually wrote. - 25/08/2012 09:46:47 AM 660 Views
Snoop = hypocrite - great job random! *NM* - 25/08/2012 04:27:38 PM 397 Views
Damage to cycling? LMAO good one! *NM* - 24/08/2012 03:23:48 PM 346 Views
Yea I choked up a bit when I read that - 25/08/2012 12:09:13 AM 772 Views
Sad thing is I wondered who would be awarded the victory now his have been stripped... - 24/08/2012 05:31:20 PM 731 Views
And this is why I have a hard time blaming Armstrong. - 24/08/2012 06:16:14 PM 777 Views
I don't. - 24/08/2012 11:51:14 PM 784 Views
Oh come on. - 25/08/2012 01:18:18 AM 951 Views
Yes? - 25/08/2012 10:07:34 AM 846 Views
No. - 25/08/2012 12:53:49 PM 855 Views
Oh. - 26/08/2012 05:28:50 PM 856 Views
Hopefully they will leave the 1st places empty - 24/08/2012 11:44:49 PM 683 Views
That is one of things I find suspicious about the denials. - 26/08/2012 03:01:30 AM 770 Views
Re: That is one of things I find suspicious about the denials. - 26/08/2012 05:32:38 PM 749 Views
It is not proof, only far from conclusive evidence. - 26/08/2012 11:02:38 PM 778 Views
I really don't know anymore what to think on Armstrong. - 24/08/2012 06:53:04 PM 762 Views
Re: I really don't know anymore what to think on Armstrong. - 24/08/2012 11:59:14 PM 848 Views
Haters gotta hate. Its not like he's gonna get a fair hearing. *NM* - 24/08/2012 10:25:18 PM 357 Views
Yeah, they were going to use evidence and everything against him and not cower before his bullying - 25/08/2012 12:01:44 AM 662 Views
Nevermind, saw your post up above *NM* - 25/08/2012 01:05:03 AM 368 Views
Your reaction seems kinda over the top and spiteful, what's up with that? - 25/08/2012 01:15:12 AM 883 Views
Pleasure at seeing someone who has bullied and blustered for so long faced with justice. - 25/08/2012 10:11:15 AM 756 Views
You are a very small-minded person. - 25/08/2012 04:26:46 PM 774 Views
And you are a very annoying person. - 25/08/2012 06:06:50 PM 770 Views
In the immortal words of Anonymous2000 ... "+1" - 25/08/2012 06:32:10 PM 855 Views
-1 - 25/08/2012 10:23:25 PM 687 Views
I don't think 'nemesis' is a term that should be used regarding sporting events - 25/08/2012 07:51:35 PM 827 Views
Heh. This exchange is reminding me of Yes, Minister. - 25/08/2012 10:04:59 PM 707 Views
I've actually seen that show - 26/08/2012 05:33:31 AM 800 Views
As Legolas said, I think it is apprioriate - 26/08/2012 05:36:08 PM 643 Views
I'm really not in a position to judge, though obviously I'm inclined to disagree - 26/08/2012 05:41:49 PM 712 Views
Fair enough *NM* - 26/08/2012 05:47:36 PM 388 Views
i've got ten RAFOlk who testify they saw you punch babies, you should be stripped of posting here - 25/08/2012 04:09:53 PM 706 Views
+1 - Anyone that thinks this isn't a sham/witch hunt is a moron. *NM* - 25/08/2012 04:23:55 PM 363 Views
You're not stupid, so I'm going to assume you know why your post is nonsense. - 26/08/2012 05:37:49 PM 634 Views
he will lose in arbitration, whether or not he is innocent. that's the point - 28/08/2012 03:55:38 PM 795 Views
Why? And "because Lance says so" isn't a valid argument, neither is "they have too much evidence" - 28/08/2012 05:55:24 PM 806 Views
a 58-2 record in arbitration suggests something is not quite right, imho - 29/08/2012 04:02:59 PM 885 Views
but he was the guy who had cancer - 26/08/2012 12:26:34 AM 693 Views
I refer you to the Goldman dilema - 26/08/2012 05:41:26 PM 591 Views
but that's just dumb *NM* - 26/08/2012 10:23:34 PM 457 Views
Well - 27/08/2012 09:32:30 AM 961 Views
On that first point - 27/08/2012 10:37:34 AM 797 Views

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