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I'm not surprised there were missing incidents Isaac Send a noteboard - 31/07/2012 08:18:04 PM
I have no idea why that list includes some incidents while omitting others - most notably of course, the Tucson shooting that very nearly killed Gabby Giffords. Or the Jonesboro school massacre. If you look at the link below you'll find 44 massacres in the US since 1980, and that list too is missing some that do appear on others, like the Oikos thing this year. I haven't checked if all those massacres happened with guns, admittedly, but odds are the vast majority are.

I don't even necessarily know if the US has much more of these things per capita than other countries, either. I was just baffled by your very low number, and my quick and lazy searching seems to confirm it should be rather more.


In my original reply there's a brief bit of me discussing the US averaging 2 or 3 a year and how that compared up with other countries with smaller population like Norway, and then general stream of crime per capita, but that was the only list I could find... I did encounter your Rampage Killings list when try to relocate the one I'd quoted but it does not paste properly into Excel and individually counting them all and comparing wasn't something I was in the mood for. You'll also note the list of citations is thin and doesn't include - that I saw - any citation of some formal table or research. It may or may not be accurate, but I'm choosing to assume that the list is light on all fronts, and thus is missing non-US incidents as well, and proportionally. The list you attached is 'Americas' so it's hard to compare to Europe, but I will note that the 'Americas' list was 116 entries and Europe's was 99, and that the Americas have 900 million people in them. True, most of the rampages listed are in the US but I'd distrust data from almost anywhere south of the Rio Grande much as I would East of Berlin. My personal guess is the US does have more of these, but I think it's within some single to double digit percentage rather than some order of magnitude thing like 10x.
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