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If Hitler could let Jesse Owens run... Cannoli Send a noteboard - 25/07/2012 11:07:19 PM
And all this once again reminds me that if we only protected the rights of the people who agreed with us, we wouldn't have free speech. People are welcome to boycott Chick-Fil-A (I don't think I would have gone to one even before the controversy), sponsors can pull sponsorship. People are welcome to hate Voula Papachristou, too. However, I think the "official" actions taken against both are disgusting, too.


Indeed. Invariably, this comes down to whose ox is being gored, and if it degenerates to that level, then politics gets a lot nastier - when government usurps too much authority, it becomes a matter of life or death to win the elections or whatever means are used to take control of the government, if only to prevent your side from being the ones who are censored and banned, and to turn it against the other side as a matter of survival. Eventually, with being in power becoming a matter of survival, any means necessary to get power is going to be seen as legitimate. That's the end result of political power being used to enforce morals or group privileges.
Cannoli
“Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.” GK Chesteron
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Am I the only one who thinks Voula Papachristou should not have been kicked out of the Olympics? - 25/07/2012 10:55:19 PM 1290 Views
Being on a country's Olympic team is a privilege, not a right - 25/07/2012 11:00:24 PM 774 Views
So banning blacks would be cool if it was legal in that country? - 25/07/2012 11:08:52 PM 935 Views
If that's how the country wants to run itself - 25/07/2012 11:13:04 PM 807 Views
The IOC can ban nations from participating for that sort of stunt. - 25/07/2012 11:33:23 PM 962 Views
So that excuses thought control? - 25/07/2012 11:49:58 PM 864 Views
If Hitler could let Jesse Owens run... - 25/07/2012 11:07:19 PM 998 Views
Yes. Political power should not be used to enforce morals. - 25/07/2012 11:53:19 PM 739 Views
The national Olympic Committees aren't the government. - 26/07/2012 12:02:43 AM 727 Views
Even worse. - 26/07/2012 12:08:05 AM 772 Views
Erm - 26/07/2012 12:29:32 AM 811 Views
I fail to see how the whole team would be thrown out. - 26/07/2012 12:41:16 AM 803 Views
Because the IOC throws them out if the national government interferes in the national committe. *NM* - 26/07/2012 12:43:39 AM 431 Views
Well, that's absurd. - 26/07/2012 01:09:41 AM 883 Views
As with most things, I doubt the practice matches the theory - 26/07/2012 10:45:55 AM 786 Views
Africans != illegals - 25/07/2012 11:19:32 PM 836 Views
Specious reasoning. - 26/07/2012 12:07:08 AM 703 Views
Who are you to decide that? - 26/07/2012 12:16:45 AM 866 Views
I'm not the one deciding. - 26/07/2012 12:36:17 AM 704 Views
Essentially you're saying "there are lots of racists in Europe". - 26/07/2012 08:28:26 AM 821 Views
That's an oversimplification. - 29/07/2012 03:13:14 AM 772 Views
You stated it as a fact. - 26/07/2012 07:49:58 PM 763 Views
I think any organisation should have the right to choose who represents them - 25/07/2012 11:20:36 PM 779 Views
Well, but that's not the end of it. - 26/07/2012 12:12:09 AM 845 Views
It is for me - 26/07/2012 12:26:25 AM 758 Views
So...conformity ahead? *NM* - 26/07/2012 12:40:03 AM 369 Views
Is that all that happened? - 25/07/2012 11:28:17 PM 715 Views
That and some pro-Golden Dawn statements. - 26/07/2012 12:14:25 AM 905 Views
For me it is more than enough - 26/07/2012 12:32:35 AM 698 Views
It's not what happened to her that I typically waver on. - 27/07/2012 03:08:45 PM 732 Views
It's not a matter of freedom of expression - 26/07/2012 09:49:59 PM 906 Views
This. *NM* - 26/07/2012 10:26:37 PM 391 Views
I oppose censorship even if it is not comng from the government - 26/07/2012 10:16:30 PM 749 Views
How is it censorship? - 27/07/2012 02:33:30 AM 854 Views
try looking up the word censorship and ask yourself would their actions supress speech - 27/07/2012 02:59:11 AM 977 Views
I know the definition thank you. How exactly was her communication suppressed? - 27/07/2012 05:54:39 PM 880 Views
you are right public punishment of political expression could never been seen as suppression - 27/07/2012 06:20:15 PM 999 Views
Well - 27/07/2012 07:20:27 PM 751 Views
Where did she ever imply she wanted them to be bitten? *NM* - 27/07/2012 08:03:05 PM 445 Views
Hello earth.... "food from home". - 27/07/2012 08:26:15 PM 731 Views
OK I repeat my question: Where did she she WANTED them to be bit? - 30/07/2012 09:07:01 PM 1025 Views
Um, she referred to them as food? - 27/07/2012 08:38:22 PM 781 Views
No what is silly is inferring that she hoped they would be bitten *NM* - 30/07/2012 09:09:18 PM 500 Views
No what is silly is inferring that she hoped they would be bitten *NM* - 30/07/2012 09:09:27 PM 410 Views
I'm with you on this - I don't think she wanted them to be bitten. - 27/07/2012 09:02:05 PM 807 Views
It was insensitive at best - 30/07/2012 09:25:06 PM 1258 Views
One problem. - 27/07/2012 04:54:52 AM 760 Views
Exactly - 27/07/2012 12:05:14 PM 762 Views
I know you said it but do you actually believe it? - 27/07/2012 01:56:35 PM 733 Views
It's a good question, but yes, I do. - 27/07/2012 02:42:28 PM 782 Views
Are going to ban everyone and everyone country who says something about anyone else? - 27/07/2012 04:47:51 PM 693 Views
Yes, that is clearly exactly what I said. - 27/07/2012 05:10:37 PM 744 Views
i have a feeling you are being influenced by that pic they run with all the articles about her? - 27/07/2012 02:14:13 PM 757 Views
Surely you don't think... - 27/07/2012 02:57:47 PM 676 Views
Heh. - 27/07/2012 05:53:07 PM 906 Views
Typo? There are limits to our credulity... or to mine, anyway. - 27/07/2012 06:27:44 PM 757 Views
Looks like Voula Papachristou agrees with Tom - 27/07/2012 07:09:30 PM 783 Views
Quite understandable. But so's the Greek OC's decision. - 27/07/2012 07:11:31 PM 787 Views
And now a Swiss footabller has gone as well - 30/07/2012 08:22:45 PM 800 Views
That's just poor sportsmanship. *NM* - 30/07/2012 08:53:53 PM 506 Views
And an Australian athlete has been sent home now - 04/08/2012 10:12:12 AM 629 Views

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