That distinction would be an almost wholly Roman Catholic (or possibly Greek Orthodox) one.
Joel Send a noteboard - 01/06/2012 01:47:12 AM
I think that the relative distinction here is that Christmas appears on church calendars as a Holy Day. As does Easter, All Saint's Day, Holy Week, Pentecost, etc.
Thanksgiving may have been started by religious people, but as far as I'm aware, it doesn't appear on any religions list of "Holy Days of Obligation".
Thanksgiving may have been started by religious people, but as far as I'm aware, it doesn't appear on any religions list of "Holy Days of Obligation".
Even Protestant churches preserving Roman Catholic religious holidays do just that: Preserve Roman Catholic religious traditions inherited from before the Reformation. In the case of the Pilgrims (who essentially protested a Protestant church by leaving it) commencing Thanksgiving in America, that does not really apply, but its inception was no less religious for that. Though, to the extent the traditional Thanksgiving origin story is reliable, it is odd pilgrims who left their church and native country because they felt their neighbors insufficiently Christian nonetheless initiated Thanksgiving by inviting pagans to a religious feast.
Nonetheless, religion and organized religion are not synonymous (particularly in the US.) From our origin we justly lionized national heroes who habitually and publicly declared themselves deeply religious but repulsed by churches. Thus they also from our origin recognized a day of religious thanksgiving distinct from any church(es.)
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For Our Nordmenn: What Happens to Federal Religious Holidays in the Absence of a State Church?
27/05/2012 01:33:20 PM
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Nothing, they are federal holidays still because of strong unions, not religion
27/05/2012 06:58:52 PM
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Hypocrisy FTW, eh?
27/05/2012 11:04:38 PM
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No.
27/05/2012 11:16:11 PM
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Again, some people manifestly care; just not enough to relinquish a paid holiday.
28/05/2012 01:48:26 AM
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Nothing.
27/05/2012 07:03:07 PM
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Replacing it with another, secular, holiday seems the responsible thing to do.
27/05/2012 11:15:11 PM
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People. Don't. Care.
27/05/2012 11:29:07 PM
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If people did not care, disestablishmentarianism (and its antithesis) would not exist.
28/05/2012 01:41:18 AM
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Most of them are stolen from heden traditions and have nothing to do with christianity.
27/05/2012 07:15:55 PM
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Since two resident history buffs recently excoriated me for that claim, I have no wish to revisit it
27/05/2012 11:27:13 PM
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Thanksgiving isn't a religious holiday.
27/05/2012 08:43:58 PM
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That is rather debatable.
28/05/2012 12:08:53 AM
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The Distinction
29/05/2012 07:41:47 PM
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Thanksgiving was a purely federal institution. FDR dictated the date it's celebrated
30/05/2012 03:22:09 AM
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That distinction would be an almost wholly Roman Catholic (or possibly Greek Orthodox) one.
01/06/2012 01:47:12 AM
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How do you come to four for Canada?
27/05/2012 11:29:57 PM
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Because I counted Thankgiving, and holidays for federal employees rather than just statutory ones.
28/05/2012 02:03:55 AM
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Re: Because I counted Thankgiving, and holidays for federal employees rather...
28/05/2012 04:31:14 AM
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Well, you know better than I, but I found the 1580s date interesting.
28/05/2012 04:08:31 PM
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Re: Well, you no better than I, but I found the 1580s date interesting.
29/05/2012 01:15:52 AM
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Ireland has a tonne of religious public holidays yet no state religion.
28/05/2012 12:48:55 AM
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I wondered how that would shake out for the rest of Europe, or at least Western Europe.
28/05/2012 02:29:16 AM
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It's funny how you use "federal" to mean "mandated by national government".
28/05/2012 03:49:17 PM
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I was thinking more "central" government, but OK.
28/05/2012 04:26:38 PM
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Re: I was thinking more "central" government, but OK.
28/05/2012 04:50:32 PM
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Re: I was thinking more "central" government, but OK.
01/06/2012 02:03:40 AM
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I think you've got the Scotland Act backwards.
01/06/2012 09:48:36 AM
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There's a lot of countries that call "devolution" federalism, though.
01/06/2012 09:52:23 PM
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What about when most of the country is still under central control?
02/06/2012 10:25:47 AM
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