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Also I don't like this refrain that implies only the POTUS vote matters Isaac Send a noteboard - 03/03/2012 03:29:58 AM
Another reason I'm not terribly fond of increasing the youth vote, everybody gets to vote for their senators, congressman, and Gov, most of us get to vote for... I believe I worked out I have 67 positions of various 2,4, and 6 year terms to vote for, plus various levies. Honestly, I don't really want anyone voting for anything if they can't name at least half of those positions and I really don't want to encourage people to vote in droves every four years only to do straight-party ticket without looking at the names or consistently pick Johnny Uniteus over Afold Heitlar even though Afold is dedicated and competent man and Johnny's godfather is well known to all by that sobriquet. I used to be a big fan of getting out the vote, though I've never approved of Popular for POTUS, but these days given a choice I wouldn't even have any other elections simultaneous to Pres. I'm not denying that a popular vote is more fair in the 'one man, one vote, equal say' philosophy, I just don't subscribe to that philosophy. It's not like the US is unique in not having direct elections for the main leader, most of the modern democracies have the legislature vote the leader... that's not terribly different then EC.
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what about one vote one value? - 02/03/2012 11:51:32 PM 790 Views
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a bit simplistic and unrealistic - 02/03/2012 11:44:02 PM 741 Views
When illustrating a point realism is not required and simplicity is a plus - 03/03/2012 03:04:26 AM 760 Views
I have a couple quibbles. - 03/03/2012 05:23:46 AM 791 Views
Oh, certainly, I'm over-generalizing but I was already getting long-winded - 03/03/2012 06:52:04 AM 730 Views
I hate when people do that. - 05/03/2012 09:49:36 AM 736 Views
What a bunch of waffle! - 03/03/2012 10:47:19 AM 881 Views
First you complain of simplicity then of my lack of brevity? - 03/03/2012 11:18:11 AM 673 Views
A simplistic argument doesn't mean it's brief *NM* - 03/03/2012 09:55:51 PM 366 Views
Also I don't like this refrain that implies only the POTUS vote matters - 03/03/2012 03:29:58 AM 897 Views
IMHO, parliaments choosing prime ministers is LESS democratic than the electoral college. - 03/03/2012 05:57:41 AM 697 Views
Re: IMHO, parliaments choosing prime ministers is LESS democratic than the electoral college. - 03/03/2012 07:02:30 AM 730 Views
*is learning* - 04/03/2012 09:49:42 PM 730 Views
Re: *is learning* - 04/03/2012 09:56:16 PM 752 Views
To the extent I can (yet again) claim to speak for Europeans... - 04/03/2012 10:33:01 PM 702 Views
I've fairly limited exposure and that from some years back - 04/03/2012 11:35:12 PM 783 Views
Re: *is learning* - 05/03/2012 12:08:08 AM 780 Views
You could imitate the French. - 07/03/2012 10:40:16 PM 718 Views
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Do you happen to have that link, please? - 03/03/2012 06:46:31 PM 623 Views
Sure. - 03/03/2012 06:58:07 PM 799 Views
Guess we did not read far enough. - 03/03/2012 10:38:07 PM 745 Views
Yeah, you have to know a few things about European politics... - 03/03/2012 11:49:44 PM 949 Views
Re: Yeah, you have to know a few things about European politics... - 05/03/2012 06:56:24 AM 745 Views
Fascinating. - 05/03/2012 10:52:32 PM 743 Views
Re: Yeah, you have to know a few things about European politics... - 08/03/2012 07:11:12 PM 692 Views
Many valid reasons, including those Isaac cited. - 02/03/2012 02:26:37 AM 852 Views
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Why would we do something logical? Dude, you're utterly ridiculous. *NM* - 05/03/2012 04:53:38 PM 398 Views
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Nothing has shut him up yet, why should this? *NM* - 01/03/2012 05:27:30 PM 381 Views
Maybe he'll pull a Palin and go touring around the country *NM* - 01/03/2012 07:06:02 PM 347 Views
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You should put that on your license plates. - 03/03/2012 06:41:34 AM 786 Views
Re: You should put that on your license plates. - 03/03/2012 06:51:00 AM 738 Views
Ax murderers are people, too! - 04/03/2012 08:23:41 PM 686 Views
And what are you basing all of this on? - 03/03/2012 09:54:06 PM 785 Views
The closeness of several states when Obama was far more popular, and UTs heavily Mormon neighbors. - 03/03/2012 11:44:06 PM 739 Views
Wrong - 04/03/2012 08:08:56 AM 858 Views
Higher turnout magnifies the Mormon effect. - 04/03/2012 08:08:09 PM 903 Views
Your reasoning is flawed and if you can't see it there is no hope for you - 05/03/2012 11:39:04 PM 812 Views
Yeah, I think we had that conversation already, several times, in fact. - 07/03/2012 05:36:45 AM 649 Views
Do you have any knowledge of statistics at all? - 07/03/2012 09:04:15 PM 811 Views
I hate this message board - 07/03/2012 09:06:30 PM 589 Views
Some, though it is far from exhaustive. - 08/03/2012 02:29:06 PM 782 Views

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