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It was an analogy, not an equivalency. Joel Send a noteboard - 11/02/2012 01:48:14 AM
You argument does not make sense, gun control laws do not force gun sellers to sell guns to people. A gun seller can choose to sell a gun or not to sell a gun. Gun control laws do limit on who he can sell a gun to, but it doesn't stop him from using his own judgement and choose not to make a sale.

I do not understand your argument.

I realize retailers have "the right to refuse service to anyone" (provided they do not explicitly say they are exercising it on the basis of race, creed, gender or sexual orientation. ;)) My point was that just because facilitating an immoral act does not make one culpable for it (which I would dispute in cases where one knows the facilitation will directly produce such an act that would otherwise not have not have occurred) does not mean that facilitation can be compelled without infringing on the facilitators religious freedom. Another analogy, specific to religion: If the Mormon Church chose to reimburse employees for groceries, that would not obligate them to pay for alcohol their doctrine forbids.
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Democrats bailing on Obama - War against the Catholic Church heats up - 09/02/2012 04:03:35 AM 1682 Views
This is not a war on Catholics, it is Obama being an idiot again. - 09/02/2012 04:52:01 AM 709 Views
For someone who used to be a Con Law professor - 10/02/2012 08:23:34 PM 594 Views
Also, kudos for linking to a source, and a fairly non-partisan one as well. - 09/02/2012 01:33:07 PM 790 Views
I am a non-partisan guy, so I only use unbiased sources! *NM* - 09/02/2012 04:02:50 PM 565 Views
Is there really such a thing? *NM* - 09/02/2012 04:11:30 PM 463 Views
You lost all credibility in the first line of your post. - 09/02/2012 04:49:23 PM 727 Views
The subject line didn't help. *NM* - 09/02/2012 06:04:11 PM 495 Views
But it added some flair to the discussion! *NM* - 09/02/2012 07:46:47 PM 440 Views
You actually think any of us has 'credibility' anymore in regards to neutrality? *NM* - 09/02/2012 06:46:13 PM 464 Views
It's one thing to have a bias. - 09/02/2012 07:28:51 PM 766 Views
Some would say putting a spotlight on it is more honest. *NM* - 09/02/2012 09:34:17 PM 415 Views
Ah, the Rupert Murdoch School of Objectivity. - 09/02/2012 10:15:57 PM 705 Views
Wow, talk about making a supernova out of a couple hydrogen atoms. - 09/02/2012 08:41:44 PM 564 Views
I'm somewhat suprised that Obama blundered this badly. - 10/02/2012 01:40:14 AM 1592 Views
Why? Have you not been paying attention? - 10/02/2012 02:03:43 AM 2026 Views
If I am not satisfied with Romney then my Plan B is to not vote. - 10/02/2012 10:58:34 PM 2036 Views
How does that help anything? Except Romneys election chances, of course. - 11/02/2012 01:08:22 AM 1877 Views
Bullshit. - 11/02/2012 04:29:31 AM 2206 Views
A vote for no one is a vote for more BS. - 11/02/2012 05:55:11 AM 1952 Views
Obama doing this actually impresses me to no end. - 10/02/2012 02:21:10 AM 2115 Views
He is already preparing to cave. - 10/02/2012 02:42:32 AM 2106 Views
Why are you even replying to me? What you said has little meaning to what I said. - 10/02/2012 03:33:27 AM 1882 Views
"And here I thought he was just another politician." - 10/02/2012 01:29:36 PM 1963 Views
Aaaaand you can put your hat back on now: Obama has already caved. - 10/02/2012 04:04:30 PM 2119 Views
So Jehovah Witness employers should not have to pay for blood transfusions? - 10/02/2012 03:57:47 AM 678 Views
Not if it conflicts with their religious beliefs. - 10/02/2012 04:20:32 PM 831 Views
Money is not the same as speech! - 10/02/2012 07:20:56 PM 584 Views
One last point - 10/02/2012 11:35:25 PM 907 Views
The federal government forcing private groups to facilitate without committing sin also infringes. - 11/02/2012 01:03:30 AM 684 Views
You argument does not make sense - 11/02/2012 01:26:57 AM 574 Views
It was an analogy, not an equivalency. - 11/02/2012 01:48:14 AM 695 Views
Lets enhance your analogy making it closer to reality - 11/02/2012 02:19:41 AM 787 Views
Why could I not buy it with my own money? - 11/02/2012 03:46:33 AM 756 Views
Re: Why could I not buy it with my own money? - 11/02/2012 04:17:17 AM 2000 Views
In other words, I could. - 11/02/2012 04:21:05 AM 494 Views
Some more points - 11/02/2012 02:30:27 AM 833 Views
Sex is not a necessity either. - 11/02/2012 03:56:51 AM 753 Views
I can't believe you just said that - 11/02/2012 04:30:12 AM 601 Views
The widespread inability to believe that is deeply worrisome. - 11/02/2012 06:33:01 AM 767 Views
LMAO due to Obama's compromise (the word compromise should have a in it ) - 11/02/2012 12:12:57 AM 796 Views
Obama just got two weeks of being portrayed as "anti-church" to the point even Dems complained. - 11/02/2012 02:00:28 AM 724 Views
The polls disagree with you. - 11/02/2012 02:32:59 AM 684 Views
It is an interesting article, but not for the polls. - 11/02/2012 04:18:17 AM 728 Views
I wouldn't put too much into that poll anyway - 11/02/2012 05:37:05 AM 858 Views
I don't think it's quite the laughing matter you think it is - 11/02/2012 12:31:23 PM 736 Views
Nossy that was not Joel, that was me - 11/02/2012 01:56:39 PM 742 Views
I know that. - 11/02/2012 03:23:32 PM 842 Views
Understood. - 11/02/2012 07:51:14 PM 717 Views
mmm... - 11/02/2012 08:20:26 PM 745 Views

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