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Re: since you asked... Dark Knight Send a noteboard - 01/02/2012 09:44:03 PM
Yes, orgasm is the purpose of sex. I, however, have had a couple of situations where I didn't feel an orgasm coming. My girlfriend already orgasmed 2 times so I was fine in stopping. IT WAS MY CHOICE. It doesn't change the fact that the purpose of sex is to experience the intense pleasure of an orgasm. Ok, so you argue that it is a narrow view of sex. So prove me wrong. What other views are there? To have a baby, ok. What else? Anything?

Reasons to have sex (in no particular order):

1) Orgasm


Check

2) Reproduction


Check

3) Fun


Same thing as pleasure

4) Societal Bonding


Huh?

5) Boredom


Bored sex? Ok, I guess, but why go through with it if not for pleasure? Just asking.

6) Tequila


Still done for pleasure. Tequila is just the cause of the sex.

7) Exchange of goods (i.e. prostitution/similar)


That's pleasure for the person buying.

It's called science. A woman doesn't lose anything when she has an orgasm. More likely than not, a man will lose his hard-on! It's science making my claim, not me. And let me say, once again, THESE ARE NOT RULES AND REGULATIONS. Nowhere did I say I was writing the bible on sex. This is my PERSONAL opinion based on PERSONAL experience.

Your "science" is wrong or is looking through a very narrow definition of "losing anything". Yes, a woman doesn't lose a "hard on", but we can lose clitoral erection for a time and an increased stimulus may be too painful for some women. Also, some women DON'T have multiple orgasms. I will usually only have ONE good clitoral orgasm and after that I'm done. I can keep playing around (just like a man can), but I'm really rather done. Yes, if you want to be nitpicky, I CAN continue to have sex because my vagina doesn't shrivel up and close. But it's really no more entertaining for me than a man fingering a woman after he's orgasmed.


I agree with everything you said. My point was that it's still possible to have sex as a woman after an orgasm. Desireable? Maybe not. But typically a man CAN'T have sex, even if he really wants to. This is not all men or all the time, mind you. But, generally speaking, the hard-on goes soft after orgasm.

That's because, in my PERSONAL experience, not a scientific study ok, guys can be selfish bastards. Once they're done, that's it. Now, there is some science on my side. The release of a chemical after orgasm that makes a man sleepy. But I don't care about that. Women want to experience pleasure just as much as men. So I don't think men should leave their women unsatisifed. That's just my PERSONAL opinion. I am not saying everyone should be like this.

I can't speak for all women, but if I have a full-blown orgasm I get insanely sleepy. Like...curl up in a ball and nap for a couple hours sleepy, sometimes. This is one of the reasons that, personally, I DON'T want to orgasm everytime I have sex. If I want to continue to want to/have sex that day (which sometimes I do, when the opportunity is available), I need to hold off. That and it's hard to pay attention in class when I'm that sleepy.


Women get sleepy too, absolutely. I'm just trying to say why it's hard to pleasure the other person after you have orgasmed. So I guess it goes both ways!

Your anger at having people disagree tells me that--even if you're not saying everyone should be like that--you don't want people to disagree with you either. Helene isn't taking an unreasonable tone with you, but YOU are the one freaking out like she just slapped your mother.


I'm honestly not mad that people disagreed with me. Believe me. I snapped because, for whatever reason, people personally insulted me. So, yeah, I lost my temper. I can angry-type pretty fast! I should have cooled down first.

I understand you feel insulted, dude...but you're the only one freaking out here. Someone was bound to disagree with you and while people shouldn't have jumped down your throat, you're way over reacting about a topic a that's insanely subjective.


Again, just reacting to the insults. I have no problem with disagreements. This Helene person keeps try to hammer away at me. I'm not so much as disagreeing with her as much as I am trying to defend my PERSONAL opinions while she's insulting me for having them.
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Uncomfortable sex facts (because this board needs more spice) Dark Knight - 31/01/2012 04:56:13 PM 2500 Views
there's nothing wrong with laughter in general LadyLorraine - 31/01/2012 05:14:23 PM 1276 Views
There is a reason it is uncomfortable. Narg - 31/01/2012 05:43:22 PM 1465 Views
What, are we going to get stupid clichés about geeks on a geek site? Legolas - 01/02/2012 09:59:41 PM 1270 Views
Wait, wait, wait! Rebekah - 01/02/2012 10:08:38 PM 1251 Views
I didn't exactly think this was a mystery... Legolas - 01/02/2012 10:15:57 PM 1209 Views
It was to me! Rebekah - 01/02/2012 10:19:15 PM 1325 Views
I see. Legolas - 01/02/2012 10:24:47 PM 1155 Views
Re: I see. Rebekah - 01/02/2012 10:28:50 PM 1164 Views
Come back when you're an adult. *NM* Tom - 31/01/2012 05:59:52 PM 679 Views
Ok I'm back *NM* Dark Knight - 31/01/2012 06:03:57 PM 767 Views
Oh please. *NM* Aeryn - 01/02/2012 07:02:10 PM 705 Views
It's pretty clear that the poster is hypersensitive and immature. Tom - 01/02/2012 07:54:55 PM 1221 Views
It's called anger. Call it immaturity if it suits you. Dark Knight - 01/02/2012 08:04:23 PM 1322 Views
You also act as if I actively insulted you... which I haven't. *NM* Helene - 01/02/2012 09:35:48 PM 754 Views
Actively? Maybe, maybe not. Passively? Definitely Dark Knight - 01/02/2012 09:57:02 PM 1187 Views
I think her point is that she's not using that phrase as an insult LadyLorraine - 01/02/2012 10:01:13 PM 1065 Views
I like your list. Orange - 31/01/2012 06:00:28 PM 1229 Views
Oh for goodness sake I don't even know where to start, there's so much wrong with this. Morgawse - 31/01/2012 07:02:34 PM 1391 Views
How old are you? Dark Knight - 31/01/2012 07:36:33 PM 1204 Views
26. Not that I can see how it matters. Morgawse - 31/01/2012 07:40:43 PM 1421 Views
Re: 26. Not that I can see how it matters. Dark Knight - 31/01/2012 08:04:52 PM 1471 Views
Someone tells you to grow up and this your response? Narg - 31/01/2012 09:51:31 PM 1354 Views
Yes, it is a mature, reasonable angry response Dark Knight - 31/01/2012 10:10:08 PM 1320 Views
Re: Yes, it is a mature, reasonable angry response Morgawse - 31/01/2012 10:43:16 PM 1227 Views
No, I was filling in the blank Dark Knight - 31/01/2012 10:52:30 PM 1229 Views
I think you'll find the arrow was supposed to point at the quote of your post below. Legolas - 31/01/2012 11:11:15 PM 1163 Views
It's not so much that what you write is "wrong", but it shows you are a bit naive and inexperienced Helene - 31/01/2012 07:28:09 PM 1390 Views
Jesus Christ people Dark Knight - 31/01/2012 07:35:28 PM 1378 Views
LOL... I'm not a prude. Let me elaborate. Helene - 31/01/2012 08:19:22 PM 1367 Views
aah ah aha your last paragraph made me laugh LadyLorraine - 31/01/2012 08:26:12 PM 1299 Views
and yet another advantage of marriage Ray - 02/02/2012 04:45:41 PM 1255 Views
Re: LOL... I'm not a prude. Let me elaborate. Dark Knight - 31/01/2012 09:47:23 PM 1278 Views
Just to jump in for a second. heartbreak - 31/01/2012 10:50:12 PM 1397 Views
People seem to be missing my point Dark Knight - 31/01/2012 10:58:42 PM 1287 Views
'Weird' is a loaded word. It carries a judgment. Morgawse - 31/01/2012 11:03:12 PM 1237 Views
Goodness, people, they are not "rules." He clearly states these are his PERSONAL opinions. Aeryn - 01/02/2012 07:10:27 PM 1184 Views
#3 is really not an option. Not with this crowd, anyways *NM* Dark Knight - 01/02/2012 08:06:25 PM 712 Views
I point you to the title of his post: "Uncomfortable sex FACTS" (caps mine). Rebekah - 01/02/2012 09:36:00 PM 1171 Views
Facts for me *NM* Dark Knight - 01/02/2012 09:44:43 PM 677 Views
*NM* Rebekah - 01/02/2012 09:46:06 PM 682 Views
....That is not the definition of a fact. *NM* LadyLorraine - 01/02/2012 09:48:10 PM 676 Views
Wow, you really want to do this? Just let it go Dark Knight - 01/02/2012 09:53:52 PM 1171 Views
I wasn't about to pick a fight with you about it LadyLorraine - 01/02/2012 09:56:42 PM 1218 Views
Quote: "Here are some musings from my personal experience". Context matters. Nitpicking is annoying. *NM* Aeryn - 02/02/2012 01:27:00 AM 714 Views
He made hard and fast rules??? callandor1000 - 01/02/2012 05:00:30 AM 1279 Views
This board takes itself very seriously at times, it's weird *NM* beetnemesis - 01/02/2012 02:00:04 PM 750 Views
Thank you! Dark Knight - 01/02/2012 03:25:57 PM 1161 Views
I'm still pretty confused. Many of the people who are acting immature towards you callandor1000 - 02/02/2012 05:27:49 AM 1186 Views
Different strokes for different folks Helene - 01/02/2012 04:38:45 PM 1254 Views
Please stop questioning my sexual experience Dark Knight - 01/02/2012 04:49:28 PM 1133 Views
You just complained that you don't have sex often enough to laugh during sex... and now claim to Helene - 01/02/2012 05:15:21 PM 1123 Views
I did? Dark Knight - 01/02/2012 05:37:55 PM 1058 Views
*snort* I don't think anyone should have jumped down your throat... LadyLorraine - 01/02/2012 05:49:27 PM 1201 Views
Anybody who hasn't jumped down my throat hasn't replied with anything I can respond to Dark Knight - 01/02/2012 06:04:53 PM 1142 Views
To me, that just sounds like you're looking for agreement, not discussion LadyLorraine - 01/02/2012 08:07:19 PM 1162 Views
I didn't call you a virgin...? Helene - 01/02/2012 08:23:25 PM 1152 Views
Man you just don't get it Dark Knight - 01/02/2012 08:43:21 PM 1255 Views
since you asked... LadyLorraine - 01/02/2012 09:14:44 PM 1056 Views
Re: since you asked... Dark Knight - 01/02/2012 09:44:03 PM 1365 Views
Helene has yet to actually insult you LadyLorraine - 01/02/2012 09:55:32 PM 1142 Views
I am overreacting a little bit Dark Knight - 01/02/2012 10:00:09 PM 1158 Views
see dude, here's part of the problem LadyLorraine - 01/02/2012 10:03:27 PM 1084 Views
The caps really aren't going to help your case, you do realize... Legolas - 01/02/2012 09:16:50 PM 1162 Views
It was my last resort, man. I was talking to a brick wall *NM* Dark Knight - 01/02/2012 09:37:20 PM 699 Views
You're a real piece of work. *NM* Narg - 01/02/2012 09:20:45 PM 679 Views
How so? Dark Knight - 01/02/2012 09:45:41 PM 1115 Views
You sure get worked up Helene - 01/02/2012 09:29:34 PM 1109 Views
I suppose asking if "you're a bit of a twat" isn't an insult, but just a reasonable hypothesis? Dan - 02/02/2012 12:41:50 AM 1097 Views
So after someone uses the online equivalent of yelling at me Helene - 02/02/2012 12:58:06 AM 1204 Views
Yes, the twat comment wasn't okay either. ironclad - 02/02/2012 09:02:15 AM 1136 Views
And here I was about to write another post about hardcore pornography *NM* beetnemesis - 31/01/2012 07:31:14 PM 676 Views
While I agree with the ladies... ironclad - 31/01/2012 11:42:25 PM 1279 Views
One thing I learned this past year... MightyYT - 01/02/2012 05:48:51 AM 1185 Views
ironclad - 01/02/2012 08:26:05 AM 1368 Views
I think he does... Great Lord of Chaos - 01/02/2012 03:30:58 PM 1150 Views
I can't recall the scene. What was it again? *NM* Dark Knight - 01/02/2012 08:05:28 PM 679 Views
Not having to shave my balls is just anohter reason to be glad I am married *NM* Ray - 01/02/2012 04:56:19 PM 817 Views
well if the damn system is going to double post then add no condom required as another reason *NM* Ray - 01/02/2012 04:56:20 PM 686 Views
Don't know why everyone jumped on you like they did. Aeryn - 01/02/2012 07:07:14 PM 1300 Views
Thanks for the support Dark Knight - 01/02/2012 08:01:27 PM 1104 Views
Perhaps they don't read enough "sex advice" articles online? Every list is phrased that way. *NM* Aeryn - 02/02/2012 01:29:12 AM 665 Views
Admittedly, I tend to find online sex tips articles to be pretty juvinile too *NM* Helene - 02/02/2012 01:36:08 AM 707 Views
Ya don't say. Joel - 02/02/2012 11:21:45 PM 1106 Views
It means I'm not part of the target demographic for these articles. *NM* Helene - 03/02/2012 08:53:49 AM 660 Views
You linked me to one of them once upon a time. Joel - 03/02/2012 09:11:58 AM 1072 Views
The article I linked you to was wholly different from the type of article Aeryn was referring to Helene - 03/02/2012 03:03:50 PM 1242 Views
Ah, then I do not feel as bad (just maybe a bit guilty for the comparison.) Joel - 03/02/2012 03:22:52 PM 1105 Views
This thread cracks me up. *NM* Rebekah - 01/02/2012 09:34:52 PM 706 Views
It got out of hand, sadly Dark Knight - 01/02/2012 09:50:46 PM 1112 Views
That perennial issue of tone on the internet, huh? Rebekah - 01/02/2012 09:59:29 PM 1243 Views
ignoring things is usually the best way to keep them from squiggling out of hand LadyLorraine - 01/02/2012 09:59:35 PM 1071 Views
True, true. I let my anger get the best of me. Lessons learned. Dark Knight - 01/02/2012 10:02:57 PM 1172 Views
that's because it's gross LadyLorraine - 01/02/2012 10:05:36 PM 1281 Views
I'm kind of upset by it and wishing I hadn't posted at all, to be honest. Morgawse - 01/02/2012 10:58:51 PM 1557 Views
Uh huh, that discussion completely went south Stephen - 02/02/2012 12:27:02 AM 1128 Views
So full of shit. Dan - 02/02/2012 12:33:32 AM 1355 Views
Man, if I had a nickel for everytime THAT has happened.... Joel - 02/02/2012 11:16:07 PM 1204 Views
Agreed. Joel - 02/02/2012 11:19:41 PM 1011 Views
Helene and Morgawse are worthless and pedantic nothings. Ignore them next time. Thread was fine. *NM* Dan - 01/02/2012 10:40:53 PM 746 Views
....well thanks, buddy. *NM* Morgawse - 01/02/2012 10:57:07 PM 770 Views
Uncalled for and completely untrue ironclad - 01/02/2012 11:03:52 PM 1299 Views
Right. Really? Dan - 02/02/2012 12:36:28 AM 1334 Views
I referred to you making a rude and general statement about people I doubt you know very well ironclad - 02/02/2012 08:52:09 AM 1147 Views
I don't know what bone you have to pick with me, but I doubt I deserve it Helene - 02/02/2012 12:38:45 AM 1181 Views
And people complain about the political arguments. *NM* ranagrande - 02/02/2012 12:31:06 AM 670 Views
Just what I was thinking. Joel - 02/02/2012 11:17:16 PM 1059 Views
I laughed at this thread. Hard. *NM* Ghavrel - 02/02/2012 02:51:45 AM 613 Views
Heh-heh, heh-heh, you said "hard"! Macharius - 02/02/2012 04:06:43 AM 1107 Views
Man, there was some piling on in this thread. I didn't think your post was that bad. everynametaken - 02/02/2012 06:06:02 AM 1691 Views
LOL ironclad - 02/02/2012 09:01:22 AM 1274 Views
Re: LOL Macharius - 02/02/2012 04:36:10 PM 1212 Views
You misunderstood ironclad - 02/02/2012 06:20:15 PM 1193 Views
I think the board has PMS this week ßelals Girl - 02/02/2012 02:13:58 PM 1091 Views
Re: Uncomfortable sex facts (because this board needs more spice) j-whitt987 - 02/02/2012 02:47:45 PM 1294 Views
Too crass. For real spice try the hot sex in this video Sports_Gambler - 03/02/2012 12:30:21 PM 1170 Views
The cuts to a woman cleaning her kitchen kinda ruin it for me *NM* ironclad - 03/02/2012 12:36:25 PM 673 Views
Lets search for more hot sex scenes then *NM* Sports_Gambler - 03/02/2012 12:53:00 PM 680 Views
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