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Re: Well, yes, I do realize there are people out there too good for decent jobs. nossy Send a noteboard - 23/01/2012 11:29:53 AM
I just do not think there are 20 million of them who would rather be homeless and starve than get their hands dirty. Obviously everyone should at least TRY to find work; I have never and will never defended supporting those who will not. I just get annoyed when people reflexively insist no one is out of work that does not wish to be, just like the "immigrants are only taking jobs Americans refuse." I have a warm jacket and long underwear; at the moment I would be more than happy picking fruit in a field somewhere ten hours a day to put food on the table and pay rent. If it only paid a dollar an hour in a place where a one room apartment is running about a $1200/month I would surely resent it, but a dollar an hour still beats nothing an hour.

I don't think he was attempting to claim that 20 million people were refusing to work hard, but I suppose I could be wrong. And I would agree with you if you weren't so far out - I don't think people are claiming that "no one is out of work that does not wish to be, just like the 'immigrants are only taking jobs Americans refuse.'" Both comments are have some truth, but aren't completely true. There ARE people who are out of work because they won't take those jobs, and it's ok to talk about it - you know very well that things aren't so black and white, so it doesn't help to assume that's what anyone means. Same with the immigrant situation; I had trouble keeping white kids in jobs that my immigrants gladly kept. They didn't make less money, they paid taxes, etc - real jobs were refused by americans because they were hard and people couldn't get rich doing them. So, again, not so black and white, and it absolutely doesn't help to argue them as if they are.
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