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OK. Joel Send a noteboard - 18/01/2012 10:16:16 PM
It might be harder to crack the Pentagons firewall than to burn a DVD

I'm sorry, but it's increasingly clear that you simply don't understand the circumstances behind this bill, the actions this bill is designed to prevent, or even basic concepts on how the Internet functions. That's fine, but you consistently refuse to educate yourself on these matters, instead stringing together tangents to form posts full of completely unrelated ideas.

This is why I don't discuss topics with you more often.

Like I said, the issue is access to and dissemination of proprietary data; the focus is on privately copyrighted material (i.e. piracy,) but the effect extends to strategic government data also. Many of the same mechanisms and federal powers are desired to deal with both. It is just far easier to market opposition to new laws as free populists vs. evil Big Media, but the Julian Assanges of the world (or at least the US) are also covered. The only difference is that no lives are (directly) at stake when someone illegally burns the latest Lady Gaga album, so that is obiviously the way to promote opposition to any and all new laws.

However much we jaw back and forth, a new law is coming, so the smart thing to do is get out in front of it and help determine what it will be the way Obama has requested. People who prefer going to war with "the Man" can certainly do that, but WILL lose, and lose their voice in the final law along the way.
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English Wikipedia Anti-SOPA Blackout - 17/01/2012 08:31:46 AM 2168 Views
Yeah, man, because currently copyright holders have no recourse, am I right? - 17/01/2012 11:47:35 AM 996 Views
"altering the infrastructure of the Internet so as to render RAFO virtually inaccessible"? - 17/01/2012 08:12:27 PM 1106 Views
I'll go ahead and ask before I get my panties in a bunch: do you understand these bills? - 17/01/2012 09:09:22 PM 1207 Views
I admit I have not looked into it much - 17/01/2012 11:42:30 PM 1053 Views
And yet you're still arguing the matter. - 18/01/2012 02:34:04 AM 1160 Views
I love you. *NM* - 18/01/2012 03:41:03 AM 659 Views
heh, thanks. I usually find myself pushing minority opinions. Nice to be "appreciated" for once. *NM* - 18/01/2012 04:01:10 AM 644 Views
Can i second the adulation? - 18/01/2012 04:07:17 AM 883 Views
I too (three?) appreciate the common sense and reasonable explanations. *NM* - 18/01/2012 04:12:59 AM 642 Views
Thanks guys. - 18/01/2012 04:39:00 AM 1057 Views
Right, because the argument is not just over THIS bill but, apparently, over ANY bill. - 18/01/2012 11:09:13 AM 1061 Views
Alternatives to SOPA/PIPA have been proposed for months now. Please stop arguing this. - 18/01/2012 05:42:10 PM 975 Views
That is really all I ask. - 18/01/2012 06:26:37 PM 1045 Views
"sensitive federal content"? Provide a source justifying this claim and it's relevance, please. - 18/01/2012 05:59:47 PM 1073 Views
I would not have thought a source necessary. - 18/01/2012 06:24:44 PM 1063 Views
Okay, I'm with Aemon now. - 18/01/2012 07:36:21 PM 1075 Views
OK. - 18/01/2012 10:16:16 PM 1107 Views
Surreal. It's like you're a spam-bot or something. *NM* - 19/01/2012 01:23:35 AM 778 Views
That was constructive. - 19/01/2012 03:29:53 PM 987 Views
Very nicely summarised. *NM* - 18/01/2012 02:06:02 AM 580 Views
should be interesting - 17/01/2012 12:41:47 PM 932 Views
Could be; depends on a lot of factors. - 17/01/2012 07:38:55 PM 1003 Views
See, that's one of the biggest problems that people aren't understanding. - 17/01/2012 09:31:38 PM 1009 Views
So tell them that. - 17/01/2012 11:54:19 PM 1162 Views
Could've done without the snide rejoinder, but, good. - 17/01/2012 02:20:08 PM 927 Views
I love the black banner, like some kind of internet Holocaust. - 17/01/2012 08:03:27 PM 1071 Views
Are you aware that SOPA/PIPA has nothing to do with hackers and everything to do with copyright? - 18/01/2012 02:08:56 AM 923 Views
There seems to be some overlap. - 18/01/2012 01:08:22 PM 1028 Views
Re: There seems to be some overlap. - 18/01/2012 08:13:15 PM 919 Views
Re: There still seems to be some overlap. - 18/01/2012 10:27:32 PM 1181 Views
Er, what Ghav said. - 18/01/2012 02:30:37 AM 940 Views
Sorry, protecting Pirate Bay and offshore gambling are not compelling counterarguments. - 18/01/2012 11:38:08 AM 992 Views
Okay, another analogy: - 18/01/2012 02:04:12 PM 934 Views
A technical examination of SOPA and PROTECT IP - 18/01/2012 08:32:44 AM 944 Views
"As a disclaimer, I am not a lawyer, I'm a sysadmin." - 18/01/2012 12:47:16 PM 1204 Views
wow, you are totally correct! - 18/01/2012 03:45:54 PM 943 Views
That is a separate issue. - 18/01/2012 04:01:24 PM 969 Views
Thank you for posting that. - 18/01/2012 03:09:07 PM 1010 Views
Wikipedia has already convinced me - 18/01/2012 03:26:01 PM 819 Views
Trying to stop this legislation without proposing an alternative is trying to stop ANY legislation. - 18/01/2012 03:44:18 PM 1049 Views
It isn't their job to propose legislation - 18/01/2012 04:12:53 PM 969 Views
No, but they have as much RIGHT to do so as anyone else. - 18/01/2012 05:31:55 PM 949 Views
Strike three. - 18/01/2012 05:37:55 PM 1008 Views
That is fine; that is what people SHOULD be doing. - 18/01/2012 06:03:59 PM 821 Views
Things being better now than they would be under SOPA seems like a legitimate argument to me - 18/01/2012 09:04:18 PM 1092 Views
Against SOPA, sure; against ANY new law, no. - 18/01/2012 10:46:48 PM 928 Views
Re: Against SOPA, sure; against ANY new law, no. - 19/01/2012 12:15:48 AM 1006 Views
That is a poor approach to drafting legislation, at best. - 19/01/2012 04:37:22 PM 1017 Views
About "proposing new legislation" - 18/01/2012 04:45:08 PM 1078 Views
So true - 18/01/2012 05:08:45 PM 1016 Views
Not to go off on a tangent about combatting piracy... - 18/01/2012 05:38:12 PM 936 Views
Entirely agree *NM* - 18/01/2012 06:13:13 PM 636 Views
That was an excellent post. *NM* - 19/01/2012 11:18:19 PM 616 Views
Re: About "proposing new legislation" - 18/01/2012 05:59:55 PM 1160 Views
For those who want a short, one page explanation... - 18/01/2012 05:41:49 PM 956 Views
Yeah, so I use Russian wikipedia for a day. Or German wikipedia, or French, or Italian... *NM* - 18/01/2012 06:23:36 PM 687 Views
We get it: You are a polyglot. - 18/01/2012 06:27:48 PM 946 Views
Or just hit stop right before the script runs. *NM* - 18/01/2012 06:52:40 PM 680 Views
Or just disable Java. *NM* - 19/01/2012 01:58:03 AM 548 Views
That's not as much fun though. *NM* - 19/01/2012 02:13:44 AM 674 Views
Exactly, this way its kind of a game. *NM* - 19/01/2012 02:20:37 AM 485 Views
Or Answers.com, or even the actual sources that are often copy/pasted into Wikipedia... - 19/01/2012 01:07:38 AM 1048 Views
They all did it on twitter - 19/01/2012 01:26:19 AM 980 Views
I was asleep much of the day - 19/01/2012 02:40:11 AM 1060 Views
Oh, no; now Congress will be inundated with complaints from lazy college students! - 19/01/2012 04:40:12 PM 1095 Views
13 previously unopposed senators now do not support SOPA. - 19/01/2012 11:36:15 PM 1048 Views
How does that "rebutt" what was a facetious post in the first place? - 20/01/2012 09:24:27 PM 1151 Views
a joke can, indeed, be rebutted... - 21/01/2012 09:07:32 PM 1040 Views
Oh, draggie, I ALWAYS see what you do there. - 21/01/2012 10:01:58 PM 1010 Views

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