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I'm really conflicted about the whole Santorum thing. Vivien Send a noteboard - 06/01/2012 07:42:02 PM
I think Rick Santorum's views are horrible and wrong and actively harmful to many people. I can't even figure out what to say, maybe Dan Savage's santorum thing is an example of bullying. But perhaps it's more fighting back. I really can't decide.

Mostly I think that the homophobia thing will take care of itself, it's becoming an older generation thing more and more. Younger people are pretty accepting and in recent years more and more people are accepting- definitely positive trends. I think that women's health is in a much more precarious position.

A bunch of morons get together and try to make someone's name a crude sexual term because they don't like his political view. The only thing that is really funny about is it the same pathetic fools always whining about bullying. Like most things the victim class complains about they only think such protection should apply to people they like and is just funny when it is directed toward people they don't like. Not at all surprising these are they same half wits who gave "hate" crime laws they are only applied to white men.

And yes I know you said you didn't want to make it political but sorry that isn't like saying you don't want to be racist you just don't like people with dark skins.
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Santorum is #2 in Iowa Larry - 04/01/2012 01:24:13 PM 1739 Views
would you stop using that word? It is gross. *NM* jh - 04/01/2012 01:48:45 PM 566 Views
What's your word for it? *NM* beetnemesis - 04/01/2012 03:43:44 PM 522 Views
Rövsmör. *NM* jh - 04/01/2012 09:50:21 PM 518 Views
Den var ny för mig. Lews_TherinThelamon - 06/01/2012 12:12:07 AM 673 Views
Well, there's nothing wrong with Santoruming in the privacy of one's home. Tom - 04/01/2012 02:35:56 PM 1056 Views
yeah that it so funny random thoughts - 04/01/2012 03:05:59 PM 926 Views
he kind of brought it on himself by being so decidedly anti-gay that it pissed lots of people off moondog - 04/01/2012 04:36:39 PM 969 Views
maybe the gays brought all the gay bashing on themselves random thoughts - 05/01/2012 03:18:15 PM 1163 Views
Civility is a social contract Roland00 - 05/01/2012 04:39:46 PM 932 Views
so now that the gays have broken that contract they are fair game? random thoughts - 05/01/2012 06:37:52 PM 682 Views
Question have you read the Santorum interview? *NM* Roland00 - 05/01/2012 06:50:24 PM 484 Views
no I try to avoid him random thoughts - 06/01/2012 06:17:45 PM 789 Views
Re: so now that the gays have broken that contract they are fair game? Bored - 06/01/2012 05:29:49 PM 940 Views
So is it OK if just insult the gays who are politically active and push their agenda? random thoughts - 06/01/2012 06:16:30 PM 969 Views
If you call them out by name for hypocrisy, then sure. Bored - 10/01/2012 05:22:34 PM 991 Views
yes but once you have thrown out all civil decency why start getting nuanced? Ray - 11/01/2012 09:09:13 PM 908 Views
That's too harsh. Vivien - 06/01/2012 07:29:05 PM 903 Views
While language changes with time Roland00 - 07/01/2012 04:13:28 AM 921 Views
I have to agree. Reluctantly. Legolas - 04/01/2012 06:19:13 PM 972 Views
Actually, your response was expected Larry - 04/01/2012 10:08:33 PM 1023 Views
don't forget.... moondog - 05/01/2012 02:27:49 AM 915 Views
do you still pretend that it isn't political? random thoughts - 05/01/2012 03:14:25 PM 858 Views
I'm sorry Larry - 05/01/2012 03:52:57 PM 964 Views
funny how it always woks out that way random thoughts - 05/01/2012 06:44:55 PM 768 Views
Believe what you will, but my wok skills are poor Larry - 05/01/2012 07:32:17 PM 928 Views
You should ask one of the gays to help you. I hear the gays are good at cooking. *NM* Ghavrel - 06/01/2012 01:54:21 AM 611 Views
Queer stove eye for the straight guy? Larry - 06/01/2012 09:05:48 PM 836 Views
try using more heat and better oil *NM* random thoughts - 06/01/2012 06:18:19 PM 497 Views
Corn oil? Larry - 06/01/2012 09:05:09 PM 789 Views
Peanut *NM* random thoughts - 06/01/2012 11:27:49 PM 528 Views
Santorum is a man who believes you must compare homosexual love to bestiality and pedophilia Roland00 - 05/01/2012 04:42:26 AM 935 Views
and Savage is a Man who believes that vulgar personal attacks random thoughts - 05/01/2012 03:12:42 PM 1082 Views
Why should a person tolerate intolerance? (Serious question.) *NM* Great Lord of Chaos - 05/01/2012 08:46:05 PM 642 Views
The question boils down to why should someone tolerate what they think is wrong. Narg - 05/01/2012 10:53:40 PM 900 Views
and when santorum tells you that your lifestyle is worse than pedophilia and bestiality? moondog - 06/01/2012 03:34:52 AM 854 Views
To be fair... Narg - 06/01/2012 05:32:31 AM 998 Views
You are correct Roland00 - 06/01/2012 01:21:18 PM 1051 Views
Then it seems like it's a problem of definitions more than anything else. Vivien - 06/01/2012 09:48:49 PM 959 Views
Following the logic to its bitter end. Why do I do this to myself??? Vivien - 06/01/2012 10:14:01 PM 1019 Views
Santourm is Roland00 - 07/01/2012 04:24:45 AM 974 Views
I'm fairly sure your theory is wrong. Legolas - 06/01/2012 10:42:14 PM 1025 Views
so Obama offended me by attending a racist America hating church random thoughts - 06/01/2012 05:32:14 PM 876 Views
Those are really not equivalent. Vivien - 06/01/2012 04:18:37 PM 814 Views
Re: Those are really not equivalent. Narg - 06/01/2012 10:27:11 PM 946 Views
I don't like your definition of tolerance and you're not consistent with it anyway. Vivien - 07/01/2012 01:49:05 AM 979 Views
In case you were curious, I really disagree with your understanding of tolerance. *NM* Vivien - 09/01/2012 08:24:45 PM 597 Views
But being the tolerant person that you are... Narg - 09/01/2012 09:01:10 PM 866 Views
This. Joel - 07/01/2012 01:35:43 PM 835 Views
I agree, lets shoot anyone who doesn't think like you *NM* random thoughts - 06/01/2012 05:17:41 PM 497 Views
I'm really conflicted about the whole Santorum thing. Vivien - 06/01/2012 07:42:02 PM 896 Views
I find myself agreeing with you recently random thoughts - 06/01/2012 08:38:37 PM 932 Views
dude, gross! *NM* temeraire - 04/01/2012 04:39:34 PM 505 Views
Dear Iowa, Wulf`gar - 04/01/2012 08:04:09 PM 933 Views
So at this point, most of the candidates had a moment at the top. Kind of awesome. Vivien - 05/01/2012 11:22:50 PM 923 Views
that is why Perry is staying in the race random thoughts - 06/01/2012 06:20:54 PM 893 Views
He should stay, they should all stay. Trump should get back into it and Palin should jump in too. Vivien - 06/01/2012 07:00:52 PM 832 Views
It would be the joke of the year if Huntsman got a turn. Legolas - 06/01/2012 10:59:36 PM 845 Views
Is he a bigger long shot than Santorum, though? Gingrich? Bachman? CAIN!? Vivien - 07/01/2012 01:34:47 AM 944 Views
Yes, for the reason you state. Joel - 07/01/2012 03:04:39 PM 905 Views
I really do not agree. Vivien - 09/01/2012 08:51:46 PM 931 Views
Like I said, check Obamas numbers any time in the last year and a half. Joel - 10/01/2012 11:41:47 AM 815 Views
he is moving up in New Hampshire random thoughts - 10/01/2012 05:16:14 PM 1025 Views
More like everyone has had a moment running second to Romney. Joel - 07/01/2012 01:59:25 PM 829 Views
It's not a foregone conclusion yet. ranagrande - 07/01/2012 04:03:51 PM 944 Views
It kinda is; Paul cannot even win a majority of Republicans, let alone the country. Joel - 07/01/2012 09:09:07 PM 918 Views
Ironically, Paul has a better chance of winning the general election than the republican primary. ranagrande - 07/01/2012 10:14:07 PM 1005 Views
What's the likelihood of Paul running as an independent/3rd party if he doesn't get the GOP nod? *NM* Stephen - 07/01/2012 10:21:23 PM 343 Views
Not very high, I think. He didn't try it last time either, and it would hand Obama the election. *NM* Legolas - 08/01/2012 01:29:01 AM 462 Views
He will threaten to do it, but not actually do it Roland00 - 08/01/2012 04:14:55 AM 1007 Views
many states have laws that you cannot run 3rd party after being on the ballot for a party primary moondog - 08/01/2012 06:12:36 AM 1042 Views
0 *NM* random thoughts - 09/01/2012 02:57:50 PM 449 Views
Yes, he and Romney have that in common, but Pauls positions are (mostly) sincere. Joel - 10/01/2012 03:46:04 PM 1018 Views
give up the hope it is nothing more than a pipe dream random thoughts - 09/01/2012 02:57:03 PM 950 Views
All of the republican candidates are pipe dreams. ranagrande - 09/01/2012 08:56:57 PM 754 Views
I find Ron Paul absolutely infuriating. Vivien - 09/01/2012 10:44:09 PM 1018 Views
Weed is kinda important Roland00 - 10/01/2012 03:31:00 PM 794 Views
So is women's health. About 50% of US. *NM* Vivien - 13/01/2012 01:46:15 AM 548 Views
Um... Joel - 10/01/2012 03:54:53 PM 851 Views
is an ass Roland00 - 10/01/2012 05:10:09 PM 987 Views
I would like to see that enforced. Joel - 10/01/2012 05:39:22 PM 1326 Views
So segregation when done by private businesses is ok? Vivien - 11/01/2012 02:20:32 PM 1029 Views
Define "OK." Joel - 11/01/2012 08:29:09 PM 910 Views
Paul is an equal opportunity infuriator, to borrow Vivien's word. Legolas - 09/01/2012 10:56:57 PM 915 Views
I agree with you completely. nossy - 10/01/2012 12:06:19 PM 936 Views
while I, of course, disagree with your conclusion. ranagrande - 10/01/2012 02:21:46 PM 1366 Views
Re: while I, of course, disagree with your conclusion. Legolas - 10/01/2012 07:38:39 PM 927 Views
Ron Paul's biggest problem is isn't a republican random thoughts - 10/01/2012 04:18:16 PM 936 Views
The original santorum 2003 interview for those who want to know Roland00 - 07/01/2012 05:32:00 AM 1129 Views
And here is the 2002 op ed where he blamed liberalism causing the Catholic Church sex abuse scandal Roland00 - 07/01/2012 05:36:39 AM 944 Views
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