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You want people vocally refusing slavery to return to slavery; I got the point. Joel Send a noteboard - 21/11/2011 11:24:21 PM
Seems like another of those "every man MUST be free in PRECISELY the way I dictate!" situations. Rand is dead; pity her cult of personality did not die with her.

I dislike many of the means OWS chooses to express itself, but slaves would meekly and obediently slink away from "free" men who drive them with batons, tear gas and pepper spray as ordered by superiors. A MAN chooses to resist the Pinkerton slave ordered to gun him down.

EDIT: Got wrongly personal at the end; my apologies.
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An Open Letter to All People with Nothing Better To Do MightyYT - 20/11/2011 10:49:21 AM 1761 Views
Huzah! A man chooses and a slave obeys! *NM* Urza - 20/11/2011 10:56:42 AM 533 Views
Yeah, 'cos YTs comments are all about disobedience, and the OWSers are all about submission. Joel - 20/11/2011 12:24:36 PM 870 Views
Actually, my comment are about taking responsibility for yourself. *NM* MightyYT - 20/11/2011 05:48:33 PM 543 Views
Some of them are doing just that. Joel - 21/11/2011 11:14:58 PM 784 Views
As usual you miss the point completely. *NM* Urza - 20/11/2011 08:27:02 PM 538 Views
You want people vocally refusing slavery to return to slavery; I got the point. Joel - 21/11/2011 11:24:21 PM 969 Views
If what I was saying amounted to that than what your arguing for would to... Urza - 22/11/2011 06:32:04 AM 841 Views
Not at all. Joel - 22/11/2011 07:50:41 AM 782 Views
This is also not about you; the response to which you replied here has been edited accordingly. Joel - 22/11/2011 08:10:21 AM 904 Views
How much violence has there actually been? Joel - 20/11/2011 12:35:54 PM 897 Views
Re: How much violence has there actually been? ironclad - 20/11/2011 12:44:00 PM 958 Views
Because it's easy. Ghavrel - 20/11/2011 12:49:02 PM 861 Views
I think it's great that student loans can't be discharged in bankruptcy. Tom - 20/11/2011 06:27:27 PM 779 Views
Completely agree. *NM* Stephen - 20/11/2011 07:44:10 PM 599 Views
Asian parents have the right idea Aisha - 20/11/2011 08:49:39 PM 903 Views
because that's not a huge generalization of an entire race... LadyLorraine - 20/11/2011 09:05:26 PM 848 Views
every pakistani, indian, viet, chinese, cambodian person I know (and thats a lot) .... Aisha - 20/11/2011 09:27:34 PM 874 Views
I had a lot of asian peers in class growing up with parents who were not like that LadyLorraine - 20/11/2011 10:35:45 PM 878 Views
You has? Sorry...it was too good to pass up. *NM* Tom - 20/11/2011 10:40:48 PM 485 Views
lol! oops! *edit* fail. *NM* LadyLorraine - 20/11/2011 10:42:33 PM 504 Views
I understand that, and agree to a certain extent. Ghavrel - 20/11/2011 11:53:30 PM 838 Views
Well... Tom - 21/11/2011 05:39:09 AM 809 Views
Hm. Those are all very sensible points. Food for thought. *NM* Ghavrel - 21/11/2011 06:06:24 AM 436 Views
To take it a step further Praziquantel - 21/11/2011 02:36:49 AM 801 Views
I agree 100%. Tom - 21/11/2011 05:41:40 AM 740 Views
Fees are mostly increasing because of tuition increase caps paired with state funding cuts Sareitha Sedai - 21/11/2011 01:50:02 PM 739 Views
they are. LadyLorraine - 21/11/2011 06:55:27 PM 782 Views
Ultimately, there is only black and white, but they mix freely and liberally in the real world. Joel - 21/11/2011 11:38:34 PM 765 Views
HUZZAH! Very well said. alanna aes sedai - 20/11/2011 01:20:48 PM 789 Views
Our leaders should be held accountable for refusing to lead, and we for accepting that. Joel - 22/11/2011 12:09:51 AM 766 Views
I think people were jeering OWS for not being "focused" because there are so many damn problems beetnemesis - 20/11/2011 04:54:24 PM 894 Views
Largely true, in many respects; again, the Tea Party had much the same problem for the same reasons. Joel - 22/11/2011 12:26:29 AM 939 Views
It is WEIRD when Ron Paul consistently comes off as the least insane GOP candidate beetnemesis - 22/11/2011 02:56:33 AM 764 Views
Yeah, I recall that link, and still do not entirely agree with it. Joel - 22/11/2011 04:16:13 AM 678 Views
Well yeah, because you sympathize with OWS beetnemesis - 22/11/2011 02:34:51 PM 843 Views
I would not go that far. Joel - 23/11/2011 07:09:22 AM 1084 Views
"There are plenty of jobs and pay"... Do you read the news? *NM* Ghavrel - 20/11/2011 12:42:30 PM 502 Views
Yep, there are lots of jobs... MightyYT - 20/11/2011 05:49:58 PM 892 Views
Re: Yep, there are lots of jobs... callandor1000 - 22/11/2011 04:01:35 AM 784 Views
I know about a dozen Philosophy Majors off the top of my head, all of whom are gainfully employed. Dan - 22/11/2011 11:36:47 AM 827 Views
Re:I know about a dozen Philosophy Majors off the top of my head,all of whom are gainfully employed. callandor1000 - 24/11/2011 04:30:00 AM 986 Views
there ARE plenty of jobs Aisha - 20/11/2011 06:14:30 PM 909 Views
Excercise in creative thinking... MightyYT - 20/11/2011 06:45:49 PM 892 Views
Take an economics course. Learn about structural unemployment. Ghavrel - 20/11/2011 11:50:40 PM 819 Views
*NM* everynametaken - 21/11/2011 05:13:39 AM 493 Views
So you think there's no real unemployment problem aside from people being lazy and entitled? *NM* Dan - 21/11/2011 03:32:16 AM 536 Views
I'm sorry dude, but there ARE jobs. LadyLorraine - 20/11/2011 07:21:21 PM 875 Views
but what kind of jobs? Aisha - 20/11/2011 08:08:58 PM 696 Views
"My plastic surgeon" WTF Aisha Urza - 20/11/2011 08:36:13 PM 935 Views
Im a nurse Aisha - 20/11/2011 09:24:14 PM 814 Views
You had me worried about the young girl I used to know for a moment. *NM* Urza - 21/11/2011 01:01:04 AM 498 Views
I actually have a lot of respect for plastic surgeons outside pure cosmetics LadyLorraine - 21/11/2011 01:02:59 AM 878 Views
job that pay money LadyLorraine - 20/11/2011 08:57:55 PM 857 Views
lets face it. all the jobs you just mentioned are jobs illegals take Aisha - 20/11/2011 09:35:07 PM 846 Views
Re: lets face it. all the jobs you just mentioned are jobs illegals take Roonas - 20/11/2011 10:29:16 PM 791 Views
Re: lets face it. all the jobs you just mentioned are jobs illegals take Aisha - 21/11/2011 12:19:52 AM 900 Views
That's a shitty situation LadyLorraine - 21/11/2011 12:24:20 AM 757 Views
While it is true that the plural of anecdote is not data... Ghavrel - 21/11/2011 12:34:35 AM 677 Views
no I realize that LadyLorraine - 21/11/2011 12:57:06 AM 653 Views
First of all, I worked at a dairy and have a friend who busses tables. LadyLorraine - 20/11/2011 10:32:39 PM 823 Views
Actually it is the case in some parts of America. Just not the parts that get mentioned. callandor1000 - 22/11/2011 04:05:44 AM 799 Views
Thats a big problem, Aisha Urza - 22/11/2011 06:42:18 AM 763 Views
Doesn't matter when people aren't there, or people don't have the required skills. Ghavrel - 20/11/2011 11:51:53 PM 783 Views
Not in Michigan. *NM* everynametaken - 21/11/2011 05:11:40 AM 474 Views
If you can drive a truck I can get you a job tommorw hauling sand for fracing *NM* random thoughts - 02/09/2012 09:32:39 PM 331 Views
...I feel like you've been getting all of your information from TV News. This isn't about bills. beetnemesis - 20/11/2011 04:35:13 PM 816 Views
Better question is have you been to any of them? MightyYT - 20/11/2011 06:42:02 PM 934 Views
I may need to be more concise about something MightyYT - 20/11/2011 06:53:58 PM 860 Views
Re: Better question is have you been to any of them? beetnemesis - 20/11/2011 07:00:30 PM 728 Views
Wait...you think there is a problem with courts treating corporations as persons? Tom - 20/11/2011 08:33:43 PM 781 Views
You know what he meant. Legolas - 20/11/2011 09:32:59 PM 844 Views
You're talking about the Supreme Court case Citizens United v. Federal Elections Commission. Tom - 20/11/2011 10:38:43 PM 715 Views
Pretty sure the inception of corporations was not 1886. Joel - 22/11/2011 05:45:31 AM 807 Views
You do realize... Urza - 22/11/2011 06:01:47 AM 768 Views
Almost anything CAN happen. Joel - 22/11/2011 07:43:31 AM 805 Views
Actually I think we should be prosecuting these people Urza - 22/11/2011 07:46:56 AM 779 Views
Well, this is a red letter day; I agree with nearly, perhaps ENTIRELY, all of what you said here. Joel - 22/11/2011 07:59:42 AM 786 Views
You're right. I will hand you your ass on this one. If you give me gloves before touching it. Tom - 23/11/2011 02:26:35 PM 808 Views
That looks a little shaky. Joel - 23/11/2011 05:42:39 PM 834 Views
Funny how once we as a society used protesting for non personal gain ... Roonas - 20/11/2011 08:49:37 PM 888 Views
I love this post. *NM* LadyLorraine - 20/11/2011 09:06:49 PM 483 Views
Good post Stephen - 20/11/2011 09:13:12 PM 841 Views
Then why don't the unemployed ... Roonas - 20/11/2011 10:36:36 PM 752 Views
The UN is clearly out of touch with reality. Tom - 20/11/2011 10:44:44 PM 839 Views
"There is no right to work"? Joel - 22/11/2011 05:50:30 AM 829 Views
That would be a legal right relating to unions not a basic human right. *NM* Urza - 22/11/2011 05:57:34 AM 478 Views
Right; there is a right to work when it suits you, and not when it does not. Joel - 22/11/2011 07:16:40 AM 733 Views
...do you know what "right-to-work" in those states entails? Ghavrel - 22/11/2011 07:55:02 AM 873 Views
I would not pretend to be an authority on it, no, but broadly speaking, yes. Joel - 22/11/2011 08:12:50 AM 883 Views
Also, do you even have a job yet? *NM* Urza - 22/11/2011 06:02:11 AM 456 Views
Ikke ennå. Joel - 22/11/2011 07:28:27 AM 811 Views
A simple no would suffice. *NM* Urza - 22/11/2011 07:32:27 AM 518 Views
Well, that was little more than a simple no. Joel - 22/11/2011 07:57:11 AM 737 Views
So do you think there is no cause whatsoever for protest? Dan - 21/11/2011 03:31:04 AM 835 Views
Re: So do you think there is no cause whatsoever for protest? callandor1000 - 22/11/2011 04:15:30 AM 808 Views
I am also not Dan. Joel - 22/11/2011 06:08:06 AM 696 Views
Re: So do you think there is no cause whatsoever for protest? Dan - 22/11/2011 06:47:25 AM 896 Views
I don't think the protest is about being people feeling entitled Helene - 22/11/2011 07:45:50 AM 915 Views
Re: I don't think the protest is about being people feeling entitled Roonas - 24/11/2011 03:07:09 AM 761 Views
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