Not even all of the US, I'm told; like many things, it varies by state (or so said my 8th grade US history teacher who got ticketed while vacationing out of state. ) I should note that when I was getting my license transferred here a few weeks ago I had to do at least one driving lesson with the place who rented me the car for the test, and discussed this with the instructor; once I explained that right on red is basically the same as a stop sign (you MUST stop, but once you verify nothing is coming you can turn right) he understood. What surprised him was something that surprised me when I heard about it, and that I think most Americans do not know: Assuming you are in a state where right on red is legal, LEFT on red is legal onto a one way street (because no traffic can (legally) come from the left.)
I am very ambivalent about that, 'cos the fact is: You very well might, and the cop has no way to know beforehand. I am actually more surprised cops here are not more cautious in that respect, because every time they pull over a speeder they roll the dice, plain and simple: They could get to the window and find a little gray haired old lady who can barely see the road through her cataracts, or the Hells Angel who has that little old ladys dismembered body in the trunk: Luck of the draw.
That said, caution is one thing and confrontational quite another. I have had good experiences with US cops (e.g. the officer who saw me and my dad walking to the gas station after we ran out on the freeway and drove us there and back) but have also had unpleasant ones, and can relate many more secondhand. I think a lot depends on where you are; most of the bad experiences I know about, directly or otherwise, involved small town cops or rural sheriffs. In those cases you're often dealing with someone operating under several unfortunate dynamics: 1) Great local authority on which there are few immediate checks, 2) deep resentment the better paying big city police forces to which they applied did not want them and 3) similar resentment of non-residents as unwelcome "outsiders" (but lucrative revenue sources LAPD has no need to target.) Sometimes you get people who are just s because they enjoy it so much, but the nature of small time life is more conducive to that sort of thing than society elsewhere; when the patrolman who pulls you over is also the mayors son-in-law, there is little chance local authorities will take your side in any dispute.
I have had my vehicle searched multiple times for no good reason, but never by a cop in a decent sized city; the worst experience I have had in that environment was an Austin cop who pulled me over for doing 70 mph in a 65 zone (while people zoomed past me at 80) and proceeded to lecture me about how awful it would be if I got my fiancee killed in a wreck and had to tell her parents (the best part is that I was probably at least ten years older than my lecturer. ) Big city cops usually have enough problems with real criminals that they do not look for trouble with random citizens. You will rarely have cause to fear them if you need help with something--but they always have cause to fear anyone encountered in connection with their duties. It is less that every jaywalker is willing to commit murder than that anyone who IS willing to murder will not think twice about jaywalking. I have heard that cops consider random traffic stops the most dangerous part of their job, because anyone could be lurking in that front seat. If you are careful (but not so much it seems suspicious) and polite you should have few problems, but, unfortunately, my impression is that, once you leave the city, YOU are the one rolling the dice when you meet a cop.
If there is a green arrow next to it and you checked if no one's coming. Seems like that UK guy didn't get that.
Personally, I was surprised about the disappointingly low variety of decent chocolate in the US, and the incredible amount of commercials during shows or movies. Most other things were pretty much like I actually anticipated.
Like that other guy from the UK living in LA I also have the impression (from TV, not my experience) that you really have to fear the cops. They are not there to help or be asked for directions but to be nervous you could have a gun and ticket you for ridiculous crap like jaywalking.
Personally, I was surprised about the disappointingly low variety of decent chocolate in the US, and the incredible amount of commercials during shows or movies. Most other things were pretty much like I actually anticipated.
Like that other guy from the UK living in LA I also have the impression (from TV, not my experience) that you really have to fear the cops. They are not there to help or be asked for directions but to be nervous you could have a gun and ticket you for ridiculous crap like jaywalking.
I am very ambivalent about that, 'cos the fact is: You very well might, and the cop has no way to know beforehand. I am actually more surprised cops here are not more cautious in that respect, because every time they pull over a speeder they roll the dice, plain and simple: They could get to the window and find a little gray haired old lady who can barely see the road through her cataracts, or the Hells Angel who has that little old ladys dismembered body in the trunk: Luck of the draw.
That said, caution is one thing and confrontational quite another. I have had good experiences with US cops (e.g. the officer who saw me and my dad walking to the gas station after we ran out on the freeway and drove us there and back) but have also had unpleasant ones, and can relate many more secondhand. I think a lot depends on where you are; most of the bad experiences I know about, directly or otherwise, involved small town cops or rural sheriffs. In those cases you're often dealing with someone operating under several unfortunate dynamics: 1) Great local authority on which there are few immediate checks, 2) deep resentment the better paying big city police forces to which they applied did not want them and 3) similar resentment of non-residents as unwelcome "outsiders" (but lucrative revenue sources LAPD has no need to target.) Sometimes you get people who are just s because they enjoy it so much, but the nature of small time life is more conducive to that sort of thing than society elsewhere; when the patrolman who pulls you over is also the mayors son-in-law, there is little chance local authorities will take your side in any dispute.
I have had my vehicle searched multiple times for no good reason, but never by a cop in a decent sized city; the worst experience I have had in that environment was an Austin cop who pulled me over for doing 70 mph in a 65 zone (while people zoomed past me at 80) and proceeded to lecture me about how awful it would be if I got my fiancee killed in a wreck and had to tell her parents (the best part is that I was probably at least ten years older than my lecturer. ) Big city cops usually have enough problems with real criminals that they do not look for trouble with random citizens. You will rarely have cause to fear them if you need help with something--but they always have cause to fear anyone encountered in connection with their duties. It is less that every jaywalker is willing to commit murder than that anyone who IS willing to murder will not think twice about jaywalking. I have heard that cops consider random traffic stops the most dangerous part of their job, because anyone could be lurking in that front seat. If you are careful (but not so much it seems suspicious) and polite you should have few problems, but, unfortunately, my impression is that, once you leave the city, YOU are the one rolling the dice when you meet a cop.
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Slightly better than chocolate.
Love still can't be coerced.
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LoL. Be well, RAFOlk.
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America's Quirks noticed by Non-Americans
07/11/2011 06:55:22 PM
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Wait, in Europe they leave soap on dishes to dry?
07/11/2011 08:25:33 PM
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It's very regional. They always do that in that other country where they are insane. Like denmark. *NM*
07/11/2011 09:18:26 PM
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I had to ask one of the Brits I worked with about that one
08/11/2011 04:48:11 PM
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I can't even imagine not rinsing them. Like you, I didn't realize anyone did that? *NM*
08/11/2011 04:55:33 PM
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Depends on how much washing-up liquid you put in the water.
09/11/2011 08:13:51 AM
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I don't think it's different.
09/11/2011 04:30:58 PM
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It isn't. I was going to say exactly the same thing about the laziness and "soap."
09/11/2011 05:42:44 PM
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We are talking about washing dishes by hand, right?
09/11/2011 06:50:09 PM
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Yes. And here's the difference between what you do and what I do:
09/11/2011 07:08:06 PM
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EWIE!!! I can't imagine eating soap with every meal... That can't be good for you. *NM*
10/11/2011 01:48:16 AM
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Who are these weirdos who say Americans write checks to pay for things?
07/11/2011 08:27:24 PM
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The problem with these things is that you always get the entire US answering them
07/11/2011 09:32:07 PM
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I'm guessing everybody who's been to the US outside NYC, then.
07/11/2011 09:42:10 PM
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No pretty much everywhere in the US people use plastic 99% of the time *NM*
08/11/2011 12:31:49 AM
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This totally depends where you are.
08/11/2011 12:57:11 AM
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Once again, that isn't what they were talking about
08/11/2011 01:29:19 PM
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You know I worked in a store, right?
08/11/2011 01:49:36 PM
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I repeat: I have NEVER seen someone pay by check in a store since 1989. *NM*
08/11/2011 01:56:59 PM
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I know you travel quite frequently, but I'll refer you to Paul's comment above re: New York. *NM*
08/11/2011 02:10:36 PM
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I spent 1990-1999 in the South, you know. *NM*
08/11/2011 02:46:19 PM
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I knew you'd gotten around.
08/11/2011 03:06:20 PM
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I would call one to two checks a week pretty rare
08/11/2011 06:28:59 PM
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Which is still more often than places that never use them.
08/11/2011 06:58:30 PM
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Oops. This is Jen. Don't start attacking! Eep. *NM*
08/11/2011 06:59:09 PM
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Always good to see couples know each other's passwords
08/11/2011 07:19:18 PM
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I think I know it, but I actually was accidentally in his account. He put the computer down.
08/11/2011 08:08:45 PM
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*I* at least was mostly thinking about rent checks. But yes, I've seen it in stores too.
08/11/2011 09:47:58 PM
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so paper checks are history in ???
08/11/2011 10:51:01 PM
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Belgium. *NM*
08/11/2011 11:13:22 PM
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Rent checks. Utility checks. *NM*
07/11/2011 10:47:58 PM
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Exactly - instead of automated bank transfers. *NM*
07/11/2011 10:50:39 PM
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They still do this in Britain too.
08/11/2011 01:13:52 AM
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What's weirdest about British rent...
08/11/2011 09:48:43 PM
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Re: Who are these weirdos who say Americans write checks to pay for things?
08/11/2011 05:52:19 PM
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I pay the chiropractor with a check. He doesn't have a card reader and I never have cash.
08/11/2011 10:56:47 PM
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Can you buy alcohol in the US at any time?
07/11/2011 08:41:41 PM
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In most countries of Europe you can too, to my knowledge... as long as the store is open.
07/11/2011 09:43:47 PM
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I t varies ste to state or even county to county and city to city
08/11/2011 12:35:27 AM
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We can turn right on a red light too
07/11/2011 09:48:38 PM
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Really? I thought that was unique to the US.
08/11/2011 12:34:14 PM
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The French can do it too.
08/11/2011 03:34:39 PM
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The French are shameless; first they stole our national colors, now this.
09/11/2011 01:19:47 PM
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That's mostly Italy, France is not so bad.
09/11/2011 08:02:51 PM
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That makes sense, but I have heard horrible tales about French farmers in trucks.
09/11/2011 10:24:01 PM
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Cops
08/11/2011 06:31:08 PM
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It is important to distinguish between cautious and combative attitudes.
09/11/2011 02:24:43 PM
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If there's a green right-turn filter light, then you aren't turning right on a red at all . *NM*
08/11/2011 03:33:36 PM
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It's not a light. It's a sign of a green arrow
08/11/2011 03:47:22 PM
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But it's a light that goes on and off.
08/11/2011 06:02:48 PM
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Yes, a permanent sign.
08/11/2011 06:18:26 PM
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Ah, I see. We don't have those, so I thought you meant something different.
08/11/2011 06:47:23 PM
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For me, the strangest thing is the phrase "could care less"
07/11/2011 10:43:54 PM
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In fairness...
07/11/2011 10:50:13 PM
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I think that's just a case of it being said too quickly and slurred too much
08/11/2011 02:14:14 AM
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"you have another thing coming" and "it all goes well" grrrrrrrrrrr
08/11/2011 10:19:27 AM
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Your last question, and a variation of it, was my recurrent thought while reading the list.
08/11/2011 12:38:53 PM
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that is really what stood out to you the most going from Australia to the US?
08/11/2011 04:45:21 PM
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It's "couldn't care less" in America, or at least it is in the part where I live. *NM*
08/11/2011 06:01:50 PM
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It's couldn't care less everywhere- some people just say it incorrectly. *NM*
08/11/2011 06:09:08 PM
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Interesting about the flag.
08/11/2011 04:16:12 AM
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I wonder how much of that is American and how much is European culture.
08/11/2011 12:53:15 PM
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More like "we tend to equate respecting a flag with liking a country"
08/11/2011 01:57:26 PM
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Part of it is, as Joel notes, a general European trauma that isn't shared by some.
08/11/2011 09:56:22 PM
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Because my husband lived in England and has family there, I knew some of these. BUT...
08/11/2011 12:42:07 PM
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It varies here, it's certainly not unusual to have a space between.
08/11/2011 10:00:38 PM
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Huh. Only ever saw those holes in the ground in Belgium. and had to pay to use them.
09/11/2011 03:28:35 PM
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I've never seen them in Belgium - nor in France outside highway parkings, to be fair.
09/11/2011 08:05:09 PM
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When I was in England we saw way more flags than we typically see in the US.
08/11/2011 01:32:47 PM
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So many fat people.
09/11/2011 01:19:24 AM
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We do have high calorie intake and low inclination to exercise. *NM*
09/11/2011 01:26:40 AM
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That's half-true
09/11/2011 02:09:48 AM
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I think there was a Family Guy episode about this.
09/11/2011 02:27:07 PM
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Re: I think there was a Family Guy episode about this.
09/11/2011 02:33:18 PM
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Ah, that makes a difference.
09/11/2011 03:05:44 PM
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