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It's a false analogy to compare the Civil War with the Declaration of Independence. Tom Send a noteboard - 24/10/2011 05:38:04 AM
Our independence was founded on several notions, but all of them centered on the basic principles of the Glorious Revolution - freedoms of speech and the press, and a right to representation. The "taxation without representation is tyranny" statement was a very strong one. We were using the same language used in 1688 and upon which, as is rightly mentioned by the defenders of our independence, the British political system was founded.

By contrast, the secession of the Southern states was the exit from a nation of states represented in Congress, able to vote for President and with all the rights enshrined in the Constitution, on the grounds that the states wanted to preserve the right to determine whether or not they could buy, sell and own other human beings. Even Jefferson Davis realized that the moral grounds for the South's existence were shaky, and the irony of it all is that Davis was far more of an autocrat in the South than Lincoln was in the North, for reasons of expediency.

Just as Marbury v. Madison declared that the power to appoint does not automatically grant the power to revoke (along with establishing the Supreme Court's power of judicial review), so the Civil War established that, absent an affirmative right to leave the Union, states cannot dissociate themselves from it if they are properly represented, and the Tenth Amendment is a truism - the states have only those powers which the Federal government has not arrogated to itself.

QED.
Political correctness is the pettiest form of casuistry.

ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius

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To all of my British friends here - Get Over It! - 24/10/2011 02:09:32 AM 692 Views
"Treason never prospers, what's the reason? If it prospers, none dare call it treason." - 24/10/2011 04:37:20 AM 489 Views
Your knowledge of the English Civil War/Revolution is execrable - 24/10/2011 05:04:53 AM 443 Views
Sorry, I get them mixed up because they kept going back and forth from James to Charles. - 24/10/2011 05:29:19 AM 453 Views
Please, just quit while you're behind. - 24/10/2011 05:42:07 AM 431 Views
I will add them to the list then. - 24/10/2011 07:15:03 AM 458 Views
It's a false analogy to compare the Civil War with the Declaration of Independence. - 24/10/2011 05:38:04 AM 461 Views
There really was (a lot) more to the Civil War than slavery. - 24/10/2011 07:08:39 AM 446 Views
Revolutions, by definition, change the definition of "legal". - 24/10/2011 08:50:23 AM 395 Views
I suppose that is the "glass half full" way of looking at it. - 24/10/2011 11:29:22 AM 417 Views
They have a point. - 24/10/2011 06:43:31 PM 412 Views

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