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The people at the Nicene Council and the other councils were not prophets. CaptainHammer Send a noteboard - 05/10/2011 04:59:50 AM
They were not being inspired by God as to what the requirements to be a Christian were. The prophets in Old and New Testament times, who received revelation and knowledge from God, never made any statements as to what you had to believe to be Christian. Thus, how can a council of men, who did not receive any revelations from God as to what you have to do and believe to be a Christian or any guidance from a prophet of the Lord, be the ones to make the tenets for being Christian?
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There are Fundamentalist "Mormons" who do... Danu - 03/10/2011 11:32:56 PM 942 Views
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Question: Why are you such a faggot? *NM* Urza - 03/10/2011 02:23:45 PM 503 Views
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Well, I suppose you'ld be the one to know. *NM* Urza - 04/10/2011 01:54:35 AM 554 Views
Really? You really just pulled a "takes one to know one"? *NM* Kronin al'Sulc - 04/10/2011 04:19:22 PM 655 Views
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You know, my mother had a saying. Urza - 04/10/2011 03:39:32 AM 735 Views
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I'm not sure which would be sadder... Legolas - 04/10/2011 11:32:55 AM 769 Views
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OK, you need to delete the "Re:" You're using it incorrectly beetnemesis - 04/10/2011 01:55:53 PM 647 Views
"Re" doesn't have to mean "reply", it can also mean "regarding". Legolas - 04/10/2011 02:01:31 PM 675 Views
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you are still using it incorrectly. *NM* LadyLorraine - 04/10/2011 02:09:48 PM 626 Views
He's doing it on purpose though. Nate - 04/10/2011 03:31:39 PM 753 Views
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Those were the good old days. Nate - 04/10/2011 04:02:33 PM 663 Views
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I agree, it's driving me nuts *NM* ironclad - 04/10/2011 02:36:45 PM 560 Views
That's not quite right, actually. Nate - 04/10/2011 03:25:54 PM 583 Views
Disagree. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 04/10/2011 10:04:09 PM 589 Views
Considering that "CaptainHammer" is LDS, I'd rather doubt he's gay. Great Lord of Chaos - 04/10/2011 02:32:56 AM 625 Views
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Heh. Oh, Ryan. Kronin al'Sulc - 04/10/2011 04:36:43 PM 759 Views
*sigh* to all of you above.... LadyLorraine - 04/10/2011 03:06:21 AM 665 Views
I thought that was "Do not talk about /b/"? *NM* Great Lord of Chaos - 04/10/2011 03:12:52 AM 651 Views
i don't know, but if THAT is the first rule... LadyLorraine - 04/10/2011 03:41:20 AM 621 Views
Please explain why you think we should consider you Christians. Tom - 03/10/2011 04:33:06 PM 1188 Views
you know, that does make me wonder though LadyLorraine - 03/10/2011 04:58:21 PM 1080 Views
We're not as immovable as we are sometimes portrayed. Dannymac - 03/10/2011 05:27:17 PM 1062 Views
"Even Christ didn't do that"? I can't agree. Legolas - 03/10/2011 09:00:34 PM 1046 Views
I conceded your last point. Dannymac - 03/10/2011 10:14:28 PM 941 Views
Point of Anal Retentive Dissent: Joel - 04/10/2011 03:54:00 PM 966 Views
That concept is alien to the Christian theological understanding, however. Tom - 03/10/2011 10:18:55 PM 1052 Views
I understand what both you and Danny are saying LadyLorraine - 04/10/2011 12:19:57 AM 1000 Views
Oh, that's very simple Tom - 04/10/2011 04:02:24 AM 1016 Views
I honestly don't know what it would take. Dannymac - 04/10/2011 07:41:55 AM 1018 Views
thank you, both of you LadyLorraine - 04/10/2011 01:46:05 PM 1006 Views
I love the Nicene Creed. It is such an excellent encapsulation. Rebekah - 03/10/2011 06:07:53 PM 1091 Views
Agreed. Joel - 04/10/2011 04:44:49 PM 970 Views
The absolute best part about your post (plus the best thing about Mo's/LDS's) Jeordam - 03/10/2011 09:02:17 PM 1045 Views
Glad you enjoyed it Tom - 03/10/2011 10:10:39 PM 1130 Views
Though they can cause interesting changes in patterns. Dannymac - 03/10/2011 10:16:55 PM 1060 Views
We believe that Jesus Christ is the Savior of all mankind, and the only way back to God. Gher - 04/10/2011 01:29:30 AM 1114 Views
If you think the Book of Mormon was well-written, there is really little left to discuss. Tom - 04/10/2011 03:57:08 AM 1285 Views
I never said well-written, I said complex. Gher - 04/10/2011 07:04:24 AM 1162 Views
Ignore facts all you want to. Tom - 05/10/2011 01:07:35 AM 1060 Views
Re: If you think the Book of Mormon was well-written, there is really little left to discuss. CaptainHammer - 04/10/2011 07:24:27 AM 1259 Views
Woah nelly. Ghavrel - 04/10/2011 10:04:33 AM 1061 Views
I have to "Wow" as well... racist much? LadyLorraine - 04/10/2011 01:52:48 PM 988 Views
Re: I have to "Wow" as well... racist much? CaptainHammer - 04/10/2011 04:42:47 PM 1097 Views
oh well that makes it all better... LadyLorraine - 04/10/2011 04:54:14 PM 1101 Views
Exactly ironclad - 04/10/2011 06:00:54 PM 999 Views
Was the twin banging and the gay wedding the same event? Joel - 04/10/2011 06:36:03 PM 1077 Views
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I don't think there's much of a difference in crazy as opposed to other more mainstream religions. Vivien - 04/10/2011 07:08:06 PM 1046 Views
A difference exists if only in continued unabashed affirmation of a rather distasteful doctrine. Joel - 04/10/2011 11:06:51 PM 1031 Views
Then why can't women be priests? Or enter the altar? The curse on Eve is very much in place. *NM* Aeryn - 05/10/2011 12:27:04 AM 564 Views
OK, within the Mormon context I can see that point. Joel - 05/10/2011 12:33:52 AM 980 Views
They can in quite a few denominations. *NM* Ghavrel - 05/10/2011 06:12:35 AM 616 Views
Whoops! You meant in LDS specifically. My mistake. *NM* Ghavrel - 05/10/2011 06:14:05 AM 576 Views
Right now I am not making an absolute statement but a relative one. Vivien - 05/10/2011 08:37:50 PM 832 Views
Yes, that is kind of the problem. Joel - 06/10/2011 12:13:27 AM 1004 Views
Oh, you didn't know? Joe Smith said black people are cursed for following Satan. Tom - 05/10/2011 01:10:35 AM 1023 Views
I guess this is a variation on Hams punishment; Ghav, at least should know better than to be shocked Joel - 04/10/2011 04:13:59 PM 971 Views
it's not that we're surprised because it's "novel" LadyLorraine - 04/10/2011 04:19:16 PM 1012 Views
It is not NECESSARILY racist. Joel - 04/10/2011 04:39:33 PM 1024 Views
Sure, except ... Nate - 04/10/2011 04:50:53 PM 1059 Views
Well, the funny thing is Christian doctrine presupposes everyone, along with their ancestors... Joel - 04/10/2011 06:31:13 PM 951 Views
Yeah, circular logic is fun, isn't it? Tom - 05/10/2011 01:09:25 AM 983 Views
It it is nigh impossible to be a "non-Nicene Christian." Joel - 04/10/2011 03:12:06 PM 1066 Views
I think we've had this discussion before. Gher - 06/10/2011 05:54:39 PM 1056 Views
Arianism is a bad comparison for arguing LDS=Christian. Joel - 06/10/2011 11:45:36 PM 940 Views
Wikipedia confirms what I already thought: you're off base with the monophysitism. Legolas - 07/10/2011 12:06:40 AM 1299 Views
I had not realized it was that late, but used it only as an example of multitudinous controversies. Joel - 07/10/2011 01:03:56 AM 1397 Views
Monophysites, miaphysites, monothelites, etc. certainly accept the consubstantiality of God/Christ Larry - 07/10/2011 11:58:05 AM 990 Views
Virtually everyone has a more sound Christology than Mormons. Tom - 07/10/2011 06:45:45 PM 1046 Views
Your ideas intrigue me and I would like to subscribe to your newsletter. Joel - 08/10/2011 05:30:38 PM 1060 Views
I can see that with the Monothelites (can see their appeal, in fact,) but not Monophysites. Joel - 07/10/2011 09:43:27 PM 958 Views
Tempting as it is to prove Joel wrong (since he so frequently is), I need to take issue with this. Tom - 07/10/2011 06:59:13 PM 1040 Views
I was just saying there were competing views. Gher - 07/10/2011 07:49:26 PM 1425 Views
Oh, there were definitely competing views, just not competing Christian views. Joel - 07/10/2011 09:26:22 PM 940 Views
That sounds really nice. Vivien - 04/10/2011 06:38:29 PM 1019 Views
Why wait though? Joel - 05/10/2011 12:12:21 AM 1190 Views
So that Vivien can avoid reading and thinking about the stuff that you just wrote. *NM* Aeryn - 05/10/2011 12:28:23 AM 542 Views
Ack, not reading and thinking111 Joel - 05/10/2011 12:36:11 AM 1010 Views
I really want an answer from a mormon. Vivien - 05/10/2011 08:48:49 PM 1037 Views
Good luck with that; just because I can see no explanation save that I offered does not preclude one Joel - 06/10/2011 07:03:50 AM 946 Views
Yeah, that's what I thought. Gher - 06/10/2011 05:43:57 PM 940 Views
I'm satisfied by that explanation. Vivien - 06/10/2011 08:51:15 PM 1185 Views
Re: I'm satisfied by that explanation. Gher - 07/10/2011 07:45:29 PM 1023 Views
Oh no you idn't... *waves finger and weaves head* everynametaken - 04/10/2011 03:53:07 AM 851 Views
....i don't know what you look like LadyLorraine - 04/10/2011 03:54:56 AM 981 Views
Shoot, my Mick Jagger strut is way better than my angry hispanic girl head/finger bob and weave. *NM* everynametaken - 05/10/2011 04:58:53 AM 677 Views
Took the words right out of my mouth, repeatedly. Joel - 04/10/2011 12:49:13 PM 1184 Views
Off-Topic Larry - 05/10/2011 01:14:16 AM 951 Views
Hmm Tom - 05/10/2011 02:03:13 AM 1144 Views
True Larry - 05/10/2011 02:13:00 AM 933 Views
I think of Protestantism in terms similar to a Xerox copy. Tom - 05/10/2011 04:57:42 AM 1048 Views
Maybe Xeroxes of abridged texts and dumbed down theology Larry - 06/10/2011 02:26:58 AM 1163 Views
I like that analogy - an echo chamber! *NM* Tom - 08/10/2011 10:44:04 PM 586 Views
Re: Off-Topic CaptainHammer - 05/10/2011 02:56:50 AM 1178 Views
Uhh... Larry - 05/10/2011 03:08:49 AM 978 Views
The people at the Nicene Council and the other councils were not prophets. CaptainHammer - 05/10/2011 04:59:50 AM 1092 Views
And you know that because... why, again? Joel - 05/10/2011 07:13:53 AM 1020 Views
Tough Crowd. Dannymac - 03/10/2011 04:44:31 PM 1135 Views
No questions. Have a nice day. TaskmasterJack - 03/10/2011 11:40:58 PM 980 Views
Why don't they have anything approaching a formal theology? *NM* Dan - 04/10/2011 03:58:16 AM 667 Views
Re: Why don't they have anything approaching a formal theology? CaptainHammer - 04/10/2011 05:23:12 PM 1093 Views
Danny is right, it is a pretty tough crowd, but better tough than weak and whitewashed. everynametaken - 04/10/2011 04:02:16 AM 1010 Views
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