I didn't mean to imply that were not talking to us because they looked down on us
random thoughts Send a noteboard - 01/10/2011 01:07:02 AM
And to be honest as I said in my first post the reason I don't think we are hearing anything is most likely because there is little to nothing out there to hear. Mostly I am just playing devil's advocate and killing time while some automated test run and I try to ignore the ass whipping the Rays are giving the Rangers.
What I was thinking of is there may be something better than RF for communications and we just don't have the science for it yet. No I have no idea what that might be but I think it is possible that if this fantasy tech exist and most advanced species would find with a couple of thousand years of using radio. If it really is better they might abandon radio transmission for this more affective method. if you stretch disbelieve even further and make the system FTL then it doesn't really even make sense to monitor for new species because unless they are very close (and you would assume you have sent out enough probes to close stars to have an idea about the close ones) then by the time the signal reaches you they would have already contacted you with the FTL system. Like I said mostly just mental masturbation to try and come with a scenario where there could be a relatively large number of advanced civilizations out there and us not be able to hear them.
One thing I was wondering about though. We keep hearing talk about how many stars there are out there but the way I understand it a large percentage of those stars are close to the core, much closer together than we are out here on the fringe. Since exploding stars are one of the things we do know will kill a planet if it is anywhere nearby and the one model we have shows 4 billions years as the time frame to develop intelligent life do you know if anyone has looked into the likelihood that a planet orbiting a star closer in would be removed from the running simply because of the increased likelihood that some hard radiation would rip its ozone off and fry everyone?
What I was thinking of is there may be something better than RF for communications and we just don't have the science for it yet. No I have no idea what that might be but I think it is possible that if this fantasy tech exist and most advanced species would find with a couple of thousand years of using radio. If it really is better they might abandon radio transmission for this more affective method. if you stretch disbelieve even further and make the system FTL then it doesn't really even make sense to monitor for new species because unless they are very close (and you would assume you have sent out enough probes to close stars to have an idea about the close ones) then by the time the signal reaches you they would have already contacted you with the FTL system. Like I said mostly just mental masturbation to try and come with a scenario where there could be a relatively large number of advanced civilizations out there and us not be able to hear them.
One thing I was wondering about though. We keep hearing talk about how many stars there are out there but the way I understand it a large percentage of those stars are close to the core, much closer together than we are out here on the fringe. Since exploding stars are one of the things we do know will kill a planet if it is anywhere nearby and the one model we have shows 4 billions years as the time frame to develop intelligent life do you know if anyone has looked into the likelihood that a planet orbiting a star closer in would be removed from the running simply because of the increased likelihood that some hard radiation would rip its ozone off and fry everyone?
An interesting thought I had that may be worth discussion.
- 29/09/2011 07:22:01 PM
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I definitely agree with the first part.
- 29/09/2011 08:32:33 PM
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why do you think only those options would be available?
- 29/09/2011 08:35:53 PM
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Well just look at the history of Earth. And the cultural/advancement disparity would be FAR greater. *NM*
- 29/09/2011 08:58:52 PM
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Could be cultural domination.
- 29/09/2011 09:32:18 PM
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In one particular space opera, it's a mix and probably the best situation possible for humans.
- 29/09/2011 10:21:42 PM
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Unless their advancement is so great they are VERY ethically enlightened, her fears seem valid.
- 30/09/2011 03:04:40 AM
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I think I've met a few aliens...
- 30/09/2011 01:31:55 AM
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Those know it all holier than thou all powerful vegan aliens are SO annoying.
- 30/09/2011 06:40:30 AM
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The big issue is energy density, IMHO.
- 30/09/2011 02:53:39 AM
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That's so perfect. 
- 30/09/2011 06:43:31 AM
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- 30/09/2011 06:43:31 AM
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I still agree with the view they are unlikley to intentionally punish us.
- 30/09/2011 09:35:13 AM
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We really have no idea how rare advance technologies societies are
- 30/09/2011 02:00:56 PM
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That's a really good point.
- 30/09/2011 04:34:28 PM
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The doomsdays options don't really hold up well though
- 30/09/2011 05:22:57 PM
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hmmm
- 30/09/2011 07:51:42 PM
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Yeah but that's just a variant of "Highly advanced aliens who for some reason are totally stupid"
- 30/09/2011 10:21:34 PM
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I didn't mean to imply that were not talking to us because they looked down on us
- 01/10/2011 01:07:02 AM
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Re: I didn't mean to imply that were not talking to us because they looked down on us
- 01/10/2011 02:50:42 AM
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of course I can't say, that was my point
- 30/09/2011 07:42:55 PM
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Re: If life formed, why might there not be fossil fuels equivalent to, or greater than, our own? *NM*
- 01/10/2011 03:16:23 AM
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