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of course I can't say, that was my point random thoughts Send a noteboard - 30/09/2011 07:42:55 PM
The point I was making is that the modern assumption is that simply based on the odds and the number of stars there must be other intelligent life at there but since we have no idea what the odds of intelligent life developing are we really don't know how likely it is. If look at our planets we have had life here for about 3.8 billion years and it took most of that just to get beyond the single cell. Even after we developed multi cellular life it took another billion years to get us. If we look at all the tens of millions of species that did develop and the fact that only three developed real intelligence and two of those went extinct I think the evidence points intelligence being a very occurrence.

We like to assume others are there because it makes us feel better but I think that until proven otherwise we should assume we are alone and truly rare and unique occurrence. We shouldn't waste what could be the universes only shot at sentience.
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An interesting thought I had that may be worth discussion. Macharius - 29/09/2011 07:22:01 PM 744 Views
Well, Fermi Paradox discussions usually end with ???? Isaac - 29/09/2011 07:51:59 PM 423 Views
you do have to hope there's intelligent life somewhere out there Yunalesca - 29/09/2011 07:56:48 PM 480 Views
I definitely agree with the first part. Vivien - 29/09/2011 08:32:33 PM 575 Views
why do you think only those options would be available? LadyLorraine - 29/09/2011 08:35:53 PM 426 Views
Well just look at the history of Earth. And the cultural/advancement disparity would be FAR greater. *NM* Aeryn - 29/09/2011 08:58:52 PM 159 Views
Could be cultural domination. Vivien - 29/09/2011 09:32:18 PM 443 Views
*shrug* Humans aren't that bad LadyLorraine - 29/09/2011 09:51:32 PM 413 Views
Oh yes we are. Vivien - 29/09/2011 10:27:52 PM 434 Views
In one particular space opera, it's a mix and probably the best situation possible for humans. Vivien - 29/09/2011 10:21:42 PM 589 Views
Unless their advancement is so great they are VERY ethically enlightened, her fears seem valid. Joel - 30/09/2011 03:04:40 AM 490 Views
hmmm Yunalesca - 30/09/2011 02:34:47 PM 423 Views
"And hey. I'll eat most anything once." Joel - 30/09/2011 07:22:01 PM 402 Views
I think I've met a few aliens... everynametaken - 30/09/2011 01:31:55 AM 433 Views
Those know it all holier than thou all powerful vegan aliens are SO annoying. Vivien - 30/09/2011 06:40:30 AM 410 Views
Why do fossil fuels have to be involved? LadyLorraine - 29/09/2011 08:33:26 PM 405 Views
Going into the fossil fuel vs wood thing Isaac - 29/09/2011 08:51:07 PM 502 Views
The big issue is energy density, IMHO. Joel - 30/09/2011 02:53:39 AM 512 Views
That's so perfect. Vivien - 30/09/2011 06:43:31 AM 453 Views
I still agree with the view they are unlikley to intentionally punish us. Joel - 30/09/2011 09:35:13 AM 431 Views
We really have no idea how rare advance technologies societies are random thoughts - 30/09/2011 02:00:56 PM 553 Views
That's a really good point. Vivien - 30/09/2011 04:34:28 PM 467 Views
The doomsdays options don't really hold up well though Isaac - 30/09/2011 05:22:57 PM 478 Views
I think we have different interpretations of "silence" Vivien - 30/09/2011 07:47:32 PM 580 Views
It kind of comes down to whether FTL is possible Isaac - 30/09/2011 09:12:32 PM 546 Views
hmmm random thoughts - 30/09/2011 07:51:42 PM 338 Views
Yeah but that's just a variant of "Highly advanced aliens who for some reason are totally stupid" Isaac - 30/09/2011 10:21:34 PM 558 Views
I didn't mean to imply that were not talking to us because they looked down on us random thoughts - 01/10/2011 01:07:02 AM 503 Views
Re: I didn't mean to imply that were not talking to us because they looked down on us Isaac - 01/10/2011 02:50:42 AM 501 Views
thanks for the detailed answer random thoughts - 01/10/2011 03:08:48 PM 489 Views
No prob, hopefully it's not all inaccurate nonsense Isaac - 01/10/2011 03:18:05 PM 526 Views
not to mention that the universe is HUGE Yunalesca - 30/09/2011 07:53:33 PM 415 Views
True Isaac - 30/09/2011 10:37:58 PM 379 Views
of course I can't say, that was my point random thoughts - 30/09/2011 07:42:55 PM 429 Views
I was totally agreeing with you until I wasn't. Vivien - 30/09/2011 08:09:08 PM 561 Views
That's pessimistic, though. The "blaze of glory" is ongoing. Ghavrel - 01/10/2011 04:25:28 AM 407 Views
Re: If life formed, why might there not be fossil fuels equivalent to, or greater than, our own? *NM* Gaps - 01/10/2011 03:16:23 AM 230 Views
another thing for consideration Yunalesca - 01/10/2011 11:55:12 AM 413 Views
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