Well, Fermi Paradox discussions usually end with ????
Isaac Send a noteboard - 29/09/2011 07:51:59 PM
We've had a fair number of chats about this on the site before, actually Joel and I talked about the whole lack of fossil fuels option about a month ago, and it pretty much ends on the same thought as it has for decades now. See, we've refined and solidified a lot of data but we've known for a long time that there were billions of star sin our galaxy, billions of galaxies, and that G type stars (which are not the only candidates for intelligent life) would doubtless numbers at least millions in our own galaxy with at least 1% surely having planets and surely at least 1 in 10 having Earth-ish-sized planets in the 'goldilocks zone' with water on them. So we couldn't imagine how there'd be anything less than at least 1000 Earth-ish worlds just in our galaxy, on the extremely low, low end, with millions or even billions of them quite probably, and billions times that in the Observable Universe close enough that life could have formed and got a signal off just in case we were a freak galaxy or something.
And yet, Great Big Silence, I pretty much fall into the camp that assumes Occam's Razor slices us to "Advanced Technological Life is absurdly rare compared to life" and that even multi-cellular life is probable pretty uncommon.
And yet, Great Big Silence, I pretty much fall into the camp that assumes Occam's Razor slices us to "Advanced Technological Life is absurdly rare compared to life" and that even multi-cellular life is probable pretty uncommon.
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This message last edited by Isaac on 29/09/2011 at 07:53:07 PM
An interesting thought I had that may be worth discussion.
29/09/2011 07:22:01 PM
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Well, Fermi Paradox discussions usually end with ????
29/09/2011 07:51:59 PM
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I definitely agree with the first part.
29/09/2011 08:32:33 PM
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why do you think only those options would be available?
29/09/2011 08:35:53 PM
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Well just look at the history of Earth. And the cultural/advancement disparity would be FAR greater. *NM*
29/09/2011 08:58:52 PM
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Could be cultural domination.
29/09/2011 09:32:18 PM
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In one particular space opera, it's a mix and probably the best situation possible for humans.
29/09/2011 10:21:42 PM
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Unless their advancement is so great they are VERY ethically enlightened, her fears seem valid.
30/09/2011 03:04:40 AM
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I think I've met a few aliens...
30/09/2011 01:31:55 AM
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Those know it all holier than thou all powerful vegan aliens are SO annoying.
30/09/2011 06:40:30 AM
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The big issue is energy density, IMHO.
30/09/2011 02:53:39 AM
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That's so perfect.
30/09/2011 06:43:31 AM
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I still agree with the view they are unlikley to intentionally punish us.
30/09/2011 09:35:13 AM
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We really have no idea how rare advance technologies societies are
30/09/2011 02:00:56 PM
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That's a really good point.
30/09/2011 04:34:28 PM
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The doomsdays options don't really hold up well though
30/09/2011 05:22:57 PM
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hmmm
30/09/2011 07:51:42 PM
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Yeah but that's just a variant of "Highly advanced aliens who for some reason are totally stupid"
30/09/2011 10:21:34 PM
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I didn't mean to imply that were not talking to us because they looked down on us
01/10/2011 01:07:02 AM
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Re: I didn't mean to imply that were not talking to us because they looked down on us
01/10/2011 02:50:42 AM
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of course I can't say, that was my point
30/09/2011 07:42:55 PM
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Re: If life formed, why might there not be fossil fuels equivalent to, or greater than, our own? *NM*
01/10/2011 03:16:23 AM
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