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I suppose in a consequences free world everything is a source of amusement. Joel Send a noteboard - 26/09/2011 12:33:14 AM
The death penalty included; suffering and injustice are as irrelevant as everything else, because everyone will be happy in the end.

In the real world hellfire and brimstone and universalism are both very dangerous, because love still cannot be coerced and not All Dogs Go to Heaven.
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i'm proud to live in a country where you can be executed based on circumstantial evidence... moondog - 22/09/2011 04:06:07 PM 1540 Views
Yeah it's pretty damn disgusting and frustrating... ironclad - 22/09/2011 04:08:05 PM 840 Views
Well nossy - 22/09/2011 06:57:37 PM 885 Views
And yet the Supreme Court didn't stop it. You're a lawyer right? Dark Knight - 22/09/2011 04:19:05 PM 904 Views
Well, that right there was an ignorant thing to say. Dannymac - 22/09/2011 04:32:49 PM 969 Views
But they get all the media attention Dark Knight - 22/09/2011 04:45:03 PM 847 Views
Er. Nate - 22/09/2011 05:09:44 PM 859 Views
What about the t-shirts? *NM* Dark Knight - 22/09/2011 05:47:49 PM 352 Views
Heh... you should perhaps Google 'The West Memphis 3' Jacob - 22/09/2011 05:29:06 PM 924 Views
Cameron Todd Willingham is white, and his story is a national one since Perry is running for Pres Roland00 - 23/09/2011 03:41:52 PM 716 Views
those numbers are less schocking when you consider that blacks commet a lot more murders *NM* random thoughts - 22/09/2011 05:43:51 PM 366 Views
And this is a typically illogical argument. Cannoli - 22/09/2011 11:11:48 PM 883 Views
You're kidding, right? Dannymac - 23/09/2011 02:55:44 PM 851 Views
Re: You're kidding, right? ßelals Girl - 23/09/2011 07:36:38 PM 862 Views
Juror bias. *NM* Ghavrel - 23/09/2011 08:35:10 PM 335 Views
the jury was majority black *NM* random thoughts - 23/09/2011 09:03:48 PM 348 Views
In this instance, yes. *NM* Ghavrel - 23/09/2011 09:30:10 PM 307 Views
Your evidence for that? *NM* ßelals Girl - 23/09/2011 11:33:58 PM 344 Views
Twenty-one years of life in the American South. Ghavrel - 24/09/2011 12:40:10 AM 809 Views
Of course I'm interested ßelals Girl - 24/09/2011 04:03:51 AM 746 Views
From me being too involved with the subject material. I apologize. Ghavrel - 24/09/2011 11:16:06 AM 723 Views
No worries ßelals Girl - 24/09/2011 07:10:40 PM 718 Views
While I largely agree with your argument, I agree more with Cannoli on the NAACP. Joel - 23/09/2011 07:46:06 PM 789 Views
Wow ßelals Girl - 23/09/2011 07:50:06 PM 688 Views
It happens. Joel - 25/09/2011 03:09:00 PM 742 Views
yes the "you born white what more do you want" argument *NM* random thoughts - 23/09/2011 09:03:04 PM 337 Views
From what I've read it is pretty disturbing snoopcester - 22/09/2011 04:27:44 PM 911 Views
Huh. Nate - 22/09/2011 04:47:20 PM 910 Views
That jumped out at me too. Sareitha Sedai - 22/09/2011 04:50:52 PM 837 Views
What really confuses me Dark Knight - 22/09/2011 04:58:32 PM 782 Views
That's a good question and I really wish it would be addressed. Sareitha Sedai - 22/09/2011 05:05:40 PM 889 Views
Re: That's a good question and I really wish it would be addressed. Macharius - 22/09/2011 05:21:59 PM 926 Views
If the original trial is shown to be flawed that's supposed to require a new trial. Joel - 22/09/2011 08:25:51 PM 788 Views
Well... Jacob - 22/09/2011 05:18:54 PM 947 Views
So if I understand you correctly... LadyLorraine - 22/09/2011 05:23:00 PM 883 Views
Yes, that is correct. And proving witness coercion is likely to be difficult if not impossible. *NM* Macharius - 22/09/2011 05:30:37 PM 312 Views
almost random thoughts - 22/09/2011 08:25:06 PM 786 Views
Re: Well... Macharius - 22/09/2011 05:29:03 PM 836 Views
I know one reason is that MightyYT - 22/09/2011 08:27:41 PM 838 Views
it is only confusing because the evidence isn't really that shaky random thoughts - 22/09/2011 08:54:21 PM 836 Views
you are innocent until proven guilty random thoughts - 22/09/2011 05:34:57 PM 858 Views
You must change your perspective..... Jeordam - 22/09/2011 07:33:20 PM 837 Views
Well said *NM* Dark Knight - 22/09/2011 08:49:56 PM 371 Views
If I understand the Supreme Court correctly, the reason they denied the stay of execution was MightyYT - 22/09/2011 08:25:14 PM 860 Views
On its face, that is a good reason. Joel - 22/09/2011 10:07:44 PM 885 Views
I completely support the Death Penalty without question..... trzaska2000 - 22/09/2011 08:27:54 PM 765 Views
Unreasonable doubt is impossible to eliminate. Joel - 22/09/2011 09:54:43 PM 846 Views
Doubt can be eliminated.....any question about Dalmer? trzaska2000 - 23/09/2011 01:00:52 PM 897 Views
Maybe he was framed by an enemy, government conspiracy or aliens. Joel - 23/09/2011 01:54:21 PM 785 Views
Jigga what? *NM* trzaska2000 - 23/09/2011 03:36:07 PM 443 Views
"I do not know if I was then a man dreaming I was a butterfly or am now a butterfly..." Joel - 23/09/2011 06:50:34 PM 770 Views
Circumstantial evidence is not, I believe, a bar to conviction. Joel - 22/09/2011 09:43:56 PM 745 Views
Regarding the salvation thing, that is an argument FOR the death penalty, in my mind. Cannoli - 22/09/2011 11:37:16 PM 808 Views
That motive is seflish and thus fatal. Joel - 23/09/2011 01:17:00 AM 756 Views
Bullshit Cannoli - 25/09/2011 03:53:05 AM 981 Views
Where do YOU get the idea that imperfect contrition is good enough? Joel - 25/09/2011 02:29:18 PM 1278 Views
Thank God you're not an evangelist. Dannymac - 23/09/2011 02:59:06 PM 779 Views
And I pity the souls you have ministered to. They're in for a rude shock at their judgement Cannoli - 25/09/2011 04:01:05 AM 771 Views
lol roman catholicism *NM* Ghavrel - 25/09/2011 04:39:55 AM 318 Views
Not just Roman Catholics, y'know, everyone who thinks God was not BSing about judgement. Joel - 25/09/2011 09:47:12 PM 829 Views
lol hellfire and brimstone *NM* Ghavrel - 26/09/2011 12:12:28 AM 315 Views
I suppose in a consequences free world everything is a source of amusement. Joel - 26/09/2011 12:33:14 AM 971 Views
You really don't understand irony, do you? Particularly as it applies to your post about this case. Cannoli - 22/09/2011 11:26:49 PM 881 Views
. Two Wongs - 23/09/2011 08:21:38 AM 810 Views
A list of anecdotal wrongs does not prove anything. If convictions can be wrong, so can exonerations *NM* Cannoli - 25/09/2011 04:03:26 AM 319 Views
Yes; it's the uncertainties that count. Either way. Two Wongs - 25/09/2011 04:15:48 AM 633 Views
sorry if i don't have time to link to every thing i've read on the subject moondog - 23/09/2011 02:54:50 PM 961 Views
Well I would think you would have picked an article that offers some iota of proof of his innocence. Cannoli - 25/09/2011 04:14:45 AM 862 Views
I kind of agree. Vivien - 24/09/2011 12:05:27 AM 856 Views
Well, I wouldn't call eyewitness accounts circumstancial evidence. Vivien - 23/09/2011 11:45:48 PM 792 Views
Eyewitness testimony is incredibly unreliable. *NM* Ghavrel - 24/09/2011 12:39:51 AM 317 Views
Nor would I, but I've heard that lawyers say, "an eye witness is the worst witness you can have." Joel - 25/09/2011 03:23:53 PM 781 Views
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