In all fairness, Germany also bears responsiblity. (I meant to press the period key)
Variant Send a noteboard - 12/09/2011 12:47:53 PM
Germany might seem to be the good European in this whole affair, having given up its stable Deutsche Mark for the sake of continental unity and then paying a disproportionate share of the costs whenever things go wrong. But it too was primarily motivated by it's own economic reasons. Germany and a few other Northern European countries, such as the Netherlands, are hugely successful exporters. For them, keeping unemployment rates low requires steady export sales – and that’s very difficult if their currencies appreciate. Tieing itself to weaker economies through the Euro, which prevented the currency from appreciating too much. In effect, Germany was subsidizing Italian, Spanish and Greek consumers so that they could buy expensive German products, thereby preventing layoffs at German manufacturing firms. This made great sense as long as the cost of propping up weaker economies wasn’t too big. But now, Germany is facing the prospect of huge, open-ended payouts that will greatly exceed the economic benefits. They knew the risks they were getting into, now it's blowing up in their face.
I'm surprised that the idea of Germany and a few other strong countries seceding from the Eurozone isn't being more discussed. I understand that this outcome isn’t particularly likely, but it would almost certainly be the best solution for everyone. Germany, the Netherlands and a couple of other financially strong exporters could unilaterally leave the Eurozone and set up their own new currency. The existing Euro would immediately depreciate against this currency, as well as against the dollar, the British pound and the yen. A cheaper Euro would make the countries remaining in the Eurozone more competitive and reduce the real value of their national debts, offering almost instant economic relief.
I think that ultimately "a euro" will survive, but not "the euro" as it exists now. It will likely be the result of a Germanic monetary union that France might get invited to join but that will definitely be off limits for the PIIGS (and probably several of the more recent euro converts). Of course, this will probably mean the entire EU will be restructured, and so I expect you'll see various layers of participation (with Germany ultimately calling the shots - the French have lost their pre-eminency in the EU and are unlikely to ever regain it).
It's not all that surprising, either. As early as before World War I it was clear that Germany was going to dominate Europe economically if it ever stopped trying to dominate it militarily. Deutschland über alles!
It's not all that surprising, either. As early as before World War I it was clear that Germany was going to dominate Europe economically if it ever stopped trying to dominate it militarily. Deutschland über alles!
I'm surprised that the idea of Germany and a few other strong countries seceding from the Eurozone isn't being more discussed. I understand that this outcome isn’t particularly likely, but it would almost certainly be the best solution for everyone. Germany, the Netherlands and a couple of other financially strong exporters could unilaterally leave the Eurozone and set up their own new currency. The existing Euro would immediately depreciate against this currency, as well as against the dollar, the British pound and the yen. A cheaper Euro would make the countries remaining in the Eurozone more competitive and reduce the real value of their national debts, offering almost instant economic relief.
This message last edited by Variant on 12/09/2011 at 12:53:00 PM
Obama gives huge speech about jobs...next day, Dow drops 300+ -
09/09/2011 07:29:46 PM
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You do realize it's based on the fact that Greece is going to default sometime in the near future,
09/09/2011 10:28:03 PM
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And Italy, and the euro is going to collapse. It's up to 0.73 eurocents to the dollar.
10/09/2011 01:14:08 AM
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The euro certainly is not going to survive in it's current form.
10/09/2011 11:04:48 AM
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I agree (after taking out the superfluous apostrophe in your subject line).
10/09/2011 05:46:45 PM
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In all fairness, Germany also bears responsiblity. (I meant to press the period key)
12/09/2011 12:47:53 PM
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Not that my previous statement changes my opinion that Obama is a terrible leader.
10/09/2011 01:15:20 AM
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Nah, it's because I needed the dollar to strengthen last week. *NM*
12/09/2011 12:30:13 AM
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