don't confuse the far left with the vast majority of americans who support people like kucinich
moondog Send a noteboard - 01/09/2011 04:53:14 AM
i think a lot of the sympathy the far left has with certain left-leaning dictators (chavez and castro) is due to the fact they believe in their righteousness and therefore anyone who does things they agree with can be a sympathetic character. once the blinders go on, nothing else those leaders do will change their minds.
in the other example -- sympathy for gaddaffi/qaddaffi/whatever -- it's due to the fact that any sort of militaristic campaign is automatically evil and therefore they must be ok if we're dropping bombs on them. in other words, it's a total knee-jerk reaction to the situation. i wouldn't call it a love of dictators so much as a hatred of US military power.
it's a similar phenomenon the dems and repubs display when they play "gotcha last" with each other. they'll automatically oppose anything the other side does because they can't give the perception they may actually agree with something their perceived opponents have said or done. in this case, far lefties are so convinced that military campaigns of any sort are pure unadulterated evil that they can't bring themselves to admit they might be useful or justified in some certain situations.
in the other example -- sympathy for gaddaffi/qaddaffi/whatever -- it's due to the fact that any sort of militaristic campaign is automatically evil and therefore they must be ok if we're dropping bombs on them. in other words, it's a total knee-jerk reaction to the situation. i wouldn't call it a love of dictators so much as a hatred of US military power.
it's a similar phenomenon the dems and repubs display when they play "gotcha last" with each other. they'll automatically oppose anything the other side does because they can't give the perception they may actually agree with something their perceived opponents have said or done. in this case, far lefties are so convinced that military campaigns of any sort are pure unadulterated evil that they can't bring themselves to admit they might be useful or justified in some certain situations.
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Why does the Left support dictators?
01/09/2011 02:37:25 AM
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Do you have anyone besides those two?
01/09/2011 02:52:19 AM
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Well, he also mentioned Michael Moore
01/09/2011 04:34:03 AM
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I ususally do not respond to threads like this, for many threads like this are done by unreasonable
01/09/2011 12:21:10 PM
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I'm not trying to say they are mainstream left.
01/09/2011 02:39:18 PM
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I would agree currently that is true (if you are talking fringe left vs fringe right)
01/09/2011 03:59:45 PM
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As I mentioned in my reply to Legolas, 40 or 50 years ago it was mutual hypocrisy.
01/09/2011 08:01:23 PM
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don't confuse the far left with the vast majority of americans who support people like kucinich
01/09/2011 04:53:14 AM
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"the vast majority of americans who support people like kucinich" LOL thats funny *NM*
01/09/2011 01:19:12 PM
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Tom, leave the absurdist and patently false dichotomies to trzaska. *NM*
01/09/2011 11:43:35 AM
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Because there aren't any good right wing oppressive regimes for the Right to get behind these days?
01/09/2011 12:53:32 PM
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You should read Postwar. If you haven't already.
01/09/2011 06:18:55 PM
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No, there is at least one more explanation
01/09/2011 07:05:11 PM
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Yes, anti-Americanism is a very significant part of the equation. *NM*
01/09/2011 08:02:05 PM
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Outside America, yes, definitely. He seemed to be talking about inside the US though.
01/09/2011 08:26:27 PM
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well anti-Americanism runs about as strong in the American left as it does in European left
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01/09/2011 08:51:34 PM
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I was using US examples but not trying to limit myself to the US.
01/09/2011 09:57:57 PM
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I wanted to keep things confined to the present day.
01/09/2011 07:58:15 PM
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Hmm
01/09/2011 08:49:54 PM
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when you combine that with America's pro-British stance it explains why the Brits seem conflicted
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01/09/2011 07:51:41 PM
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America has a pro-British stance?
I'm thinking that'd be news to most Brits. *NM*
01/09/2011 08:27:33 PM
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Well like most things the Brits think they know about the US they would be wrong
01/09/2011 08:48:47 PM
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Or they just see things differently.
01/09/2011 10:15:20 PM
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But the Brits do need us, and we don't need them.
02/09/2011 06:01:10 PM
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Of course it's obvious. That doesn't mean they have to like it, or can't resent it. *NM*
02/09/2011 06:14:37 PM
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The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
02/09/2011 01:25:40 AM
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I think your historical argument is flawed
02/09/2011 05:57:00 PM
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Apologies, I was sure I responded to this when you first posted the thread.
07/10/2011 05:55:27 AM
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