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You're the one who dragged it to that Isaac Send a noteboard - 23/08/2011 08:10:03 PM
Don't complain things turn partisan when you habitually turn every conversation into proclamations about how right your view of the world is and people object to your assertions. Remember, this thread fundamentally was about an article written by someone who thinks aliens will exterminate us for not being green enough, which I called hogwash, in our various back and forths nothing you've said contradicted that and boil down entirely to episode 6110 of "Joel Rants" which are always about how screwed up the system is while making snide remarks at those who don't agree the system is as screwed up as you think or necessarily in the way you think. You're the one who made this political. In point of fact, I'm pretty sure I've never started a political argument on this site, certainly it's a rarity, alternatively you do it all the time. So if we've gotten to that point again it is not of my doing.
The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift.
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If ever there was a reason to cut greenhouse gas emissions Camilla - 19/08/2011 10:14:00 AM 868 Views
I've seen Start Trek, I know the real threat is you killing whales. snoopcester - 19/08/2011 10:34:08 AM 527 Views
I know Camilla - 19/08/2011 10:36:22 AM 476 Views
You make a fair point snoopcester - 19/08/2011 11:22:53 AM 449 Views
Re: You make a fair point Camilla - 19/08/2011 02:06:05 PM 426 Views
Re: You make a fair point snoopcester - 19/08/2011 02:10:43 PM 425 Views
It's the other other white meat. Joel - 19/08/2011 07:13:19 PM 479 Views
There's so much wrong with that Isaac - 19/08/2011 01:08:57 PM 506 Views
"They don't recycle; kill them all. " Joel - 19/08/2011 07:11:15 PM 501 Views
Very Space Hippy Isaac - 19/08/2011 10:39:10 PM 519 Views
It's still debatable whether we've abandoned the evolutionary ladder. Joel - 19/08/2011 11:16:58 PM 599 Views
You'll welcome to debate that with a biologist, it's not my specialty or interest Isaac - 20/08/2011 04:46:43 AM 551 Views
I've seen a lot of mainstream biologists suggest human evolution may be mostly mental now. Joel - 21/08/2011 11:32:48 AM 572 Views
Neither of us are biologists though and it's not really relveant anyway Isaac - 21/08/2011 01:21:06 PM 519 Views
I'm not ignoring it, just wondering why over half the planet ignores it and lives in misery. Joel - 21/08/2011 01:55:53 PM 526 Views
If you have occassion to spend time in those places you'll know why Isaac - 21/08/2011 02:38:44 PM 458 Views
How does literal mud huts as the norm respresent living standards rising "a lot". Joel - 22/08/2011 12:29:35 AM 578 Views
You seem to have cherry-picked what you wanted to hear out of my comments Isaac - 22/08/2011 01:07:10 AM 349 Views
"It's a stability thing, not a Western greed thing" seemed to encapsulate your comments. Joel - 22/08/2011 03:10:17 PM 487 Views
Only if you really cherry pick them Isaac - 23/08/2011 02:48:08 AM 498 Views
This seems to have descended into an insoluble partisan debate. Joel - 23/08/2011 07:43:07 PM 560 Views
You're the one who dragged it to that Isaac - 23/08/2011 08:10:03 PM 476 Views
Did I? Joel - 25/08/2011 10:18:29 PM 466 Views
*rudely butts in* Vodalus - 23/08/2011 04:38:33 AM 541 Views
American companies don't go to China SOLELY to screw the working class, no;that's largely incidental Joel - 25/08/2011 08:03:05 PM 586 Views
we should abdon the myth of the evolutionary ladder random thoughts - 20/08/2011 11:49:35 PM 392 Views
Probably; as discussed in Brams thread it should never be seen as predictive, let alone prophetic. Joel - 21/08/2011 11:55:09 AM 499 Views
Well, for this context I think the use is okay Isaac - 21/08/2011 11:59:19 AM 468 Views
That's an interesting point about the NEED for fossil fuels as a stepping stone to advanced culture. Joel - 21/08/2011 12:33:59 PM 570 Views
Not a need, just an edge Isaac - 21/08/2011 02:06:23 PM 385 Views
There's industrialization and then there's industrialization. Joel - 22/08/2011 12:53:35 AM 748 Views
If you were more familiar with engineering you'd not say something like that Isaac - 22/08/2011 01:53:33 AM 742 Views
I dispute that industrialization is primarily about non-agricultural production. Joel - 22/08/2011 03:10:19 PM 649 Views
Well you can argue that with a dictionary I suppose Isaac - 23/08/2011 03:50:52 AM 506 Views
I'm not above that, but the dictionary definitions I've found are disappointingly self-referential. Joel - 24/08/2011 02:25:21 AM 431 Views
That tends to be the case, it is a kinda vague term outside of specific context Isaac - 24/08/2011 09:12:19 AM 591 Views
Tends to moot that part of the debate though. Joel - 26/08/2011 12:31:21 AM 606 Views
Re: Tends to moot that part of the debate though. Isaac - 26/08/2011 05:52:59 PM 764 Views
Re: Tends to moot that part of the debate though. Joel - 28/08/2011 09:44:52 AM 547 Views
yes I was just jumping into the middle of the discussion. random thoughts - 22/08/2011 03:03:49 PM 430 Views
and we wonder why so many people ignore "scientist" random thoughts - 19/08/2011 01:17:38 PM 523 Views
Think it's better to ignore "reporters on a slow news day," to be honest *NM* beetnemesis - 19/08/2011 02:38:23 PM 193 Views
Or even acquire a sense of humour. *NM* Camilla - 19/08/2011 08:36:07 PM 215 Views
That was the City of Pearl series by Karen Traviss Aeryn - 19/08/2011 02:04:51 PM 492 Views
Re: That was the City of Pearl series by Karen Traviss Camilla - 19/08/2011 02:06:27 PM 448 Views
Hypothetical aliens are perfectly wise aerocontrols - 19/08/2011 06:24:13 PM 438 Views
You may be confusing aliens with God. Joel - 19/08/2011 07:08:01 PM 465 Views
Not confused aerocontrols - 19/08/2011 11:41:56 PM 483 Views
It's a an amusing disconnect to watch. Joel - 20/08/2011 12:25:00 AM 479 Views
Naturally. Camilla - 19/08/2011 08:36:28 PM 567 Views
So, basically, we're the poor white trash of the universe. Joel - 19/08/2011 07:06:23 PM 525 Views
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