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Dems used to chase the evangelical vote, and the Church never should've permitted a political coup. Joel Send a noteboard - 15/08/2011 09:22:53 AM
Keep in mind they assume everyone on the right is either a religious nut or worships the almighty dollar, that's the downside of buying into your own propaganda I suppose.

the super Christians usually are Republicans..It wasnt a Democratic Governor that just had a big prayer rally asking God to send Rain (BTW it rained in Houston today, so Perry just might have God on his side), and Democrats dont usually go after the Evangelical vote, thats all republican territory. ITs the reason Fox is always playing up the so called War on Christianity /Christmas

The overtly political takeover of the Southern Baptist Church in particular is perhaps the most shameful event that's ever occurred in our hometown, motivated by realization of the role the Church played in the Civil Rights movement, and the consequent awareness in politicians that they could make congregations a potent political weapons once they purged that awful liberal element. A hundred years ago, before they fought each over monkeys in TN, William Jennings Bryan and Clarence Darrow were friends and long time allies in the fight for labor rights in no small part due to the formers appreciation of biblical calls for social justice. Today the gospel of wealth has displaced that among the many congregations that are PACs first and churches second (at best). The love of money is now the root of all GOOD, it seems. :[
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Re: Yeah, as Aisha says, it's the Islam issue he sounded the craziest on... Isaac - 15/08/2011 12:02:22 AM 640 Views
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I've never really gotten to know him... which kind of says enough. Legolas - 14/08/2011 07:35:40 PM 692 Views
That pretty much sums it up I think Isaac - 14/08/2011 07:44:12 PM 630 Views
Yep. Legolas - 14/08/2011 08:26:17 PM 704 Views
Re: That pretty much sums it up I think Macharius - 15/08/2011 01:56:45 PM 634 Views
Apparently Super Tuesday won't be quite as super this time. Joel - 14/08/2011 08:49:40 PM 684 Views
I think Michelle Bachman and Herman Cain are awesome. You should consider them *NM* Aisha - 14/08/2011 09:25:55 PM 333 Views
You're bordering on troll Isaac - 14/08/2011 11:37:37 PM 654 Views
Yes, Aisha is every bit as batsh!t as Bachmann or Palin..... trzaska2000 - 15/08/2011 04:36:05 AM 630 Views
I agree. Grow up a bit Aisha. *NM* everynametaken - 15/08/2011 07:39:49 AM 296 Views
About fucking time. Now if we could just get Santorum to drop, too. Tom - 14/08/2011 09:28:53 PM 671 Views
He'd indicated he would Isaac - 14/08/2011 11:47:03 PM 823 Views
Oh, I don't think Bachmann WILL be kingmaker, but that's her goal. Tom - 15/08/2011 02:39:51 PM 621 Views
bachman is gonna be the vice presidential nominee for either Perry or Romney Aisha - 15/08/2011 04:22:33 AM 648 Views
funny that I only see liberals making an issue of his religion *NM* random thoughts - 15/08/2011 05:13:03 AM 313 Views
It's a clumsy attempt to poison the well Isaac - 15/08/2011 05:59:26 AM 581 Views
Re: It's a clumsy attempt to poison the well Aisha - 15/08/2011 07:13:01 AM 640 Views
Dems used to chase the evangelical vote, and the Church never should've permitted a political coup. Joel - 15/08/2011 09:22:53 AM 825 Views
For the record, I'm not trying to poison any wells. Joel - 15/08/2011 09:54:53 AM 675 Views
I think the deal with Huckabee nossy - 15/08/2011 07:21:08 PM 630 Views
Huckabee didn't hide his beliefs, but also made clear he wouldn't try to legislate them. Joel - 16/08/2011 12:58:48 PM 680 Views
yeah i guess it was s liberal Fox reporter/talking head/whatever the Eff they are called Aisha - 15/08/2011 07:07:07 AM 685 Views
I'm not sure why she had to apologize for saying that. Joel - 15/08/2011 09:56:39 AM 646 Views
because its not true? Mormons ARE Christians arent they? Aisha - 15/08/2011 04:52:32 PM 675 Views
Except their founder taught, and his church teaches, that man is his own savior. Joel - 15/08/2011 05:54:28 PM 666 Views
well ok then, i didnt know all that Aisha - 15/08/2011 06:58:22 PM 1136 Views
Precisely; every Mormon you ever meet will ALWAYS insist they're Christian. Joel - 16/08/2011 01:57:06 PM 757 Views
So nutcase liberals and one woman on Fox News and she had the decency to apologize *NM* random thoughts - 15/08/2011 02:04:44 PM 328 Views
I find that highly unlikely. Tom - 15/08/2011 02:47:35 PM 730 Views
I agree with you. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 15/08/2011 03:08:35 PM 250 Views
I personally am considering voting for Romney , but I wouldnt underestimate Bachman and her power Aisha - 15/08/2011 04:58:19 PM 665 Views
I think it is ok to "underestimate" her. nossy - 15/08/2011 07:13:18 PM 602 Views
Also, it is very likely that Palin will not enter..... trzaska2000 - 14/08/2011 09:58:48 PM 676 Views
Your analysis of Perrys effect seems dead on to me. Joel - 15/08/2011 12:28:42 AM 667 Views
besides the fact that they both have west Texas accents what similarites? random thoughts - 15/08/2011 01:59:45 AM 643 Views
By the way, why did Kay B Hutch run against him in the primary election? trzaska2000 - 15/08/2011 03:43:52 AM 616 Views
Some did want to dump him, over the toll roads and mandatory HPV vaccines for school girls. Joel - 15/08/2011 03:58:38 AM 689 Views
you call losing by 15 points competing? *NM* random thoughts - 15/08/2011 04:07:08 AM 293 Views
It was 12.9%, which is pretty good for a Dem in a very red state during a very red year. Joel - 15/08/2011 04:26:58 AM 665 Views
Isn't that almost the exact same numbers Obama lost by in Texas? random thoughts - 15/08/2011 05:02:57 AM 646 Views
Roughly; are you going to pretend that 2010 was as good a year for Dems as 2008? Joel - 15/08/2011 05:34:32 AM 623 Views
there was a perception that he was vulnerable random thoughts - 15/08/2011 04:48:41 AM 738 Views
He was vulnerable, he only won in 06 with 39 percent of the vote *NM* Roland00 - 15/08/2011 01:14:43 PM 303 Views
KBH ran a terrible campaign random thoughts - 15/08/2011 02:14:48 PM 582 Views
I have to agree with the take that it's symptomatic of a larger problem. Joel - 14/08/2011 10:23:02 PM 674 Views
There's no "victory laurel" there. The Iowa straw poll is as irrelevant as lint in one's navel. Tom - 14/08/2011 11:13:36 PM 685 Views
Largely true; it matters to people like Bachmann who need credibility, but to few others. Joel - 15/08/2011 12:20:48 AM 777 Views
unnamed sources from left leaning news source? who could question that *NM* random thoughts - 15/08/2011 01:25:07 AM 392 Views
Just because you don't like the quote doesn't make the person citing it "left leaning". Joel - 15/08/2011 02:00:15 AM 659 Views
It was a quote from Politico which is a left leaning news blog and the sources were unnamed random thoughts - 15/08/2011 02:14:09 AM 639 Views
If you say so. Joel - 15/08/2011 03:53:08 AM 653 Views
so you are going to just ignore the fact that your entire argument is based on unnamed sources? random thoughts - 15/08/2011 05:12:01 AM 590 Views
I'm not surprised no Republican wants to go on the record with that. Joel - 15/08/2011 05:51:47 AM 571 Views
I'm kinda curious how this thread got controversial Isaac - 15/08/2011 06:26:15 AM 616 Views
Probably because I opined my impression that most of the viable GOP field looks pretty unimpressive. Joel - 15/08/2011 09:11:45 AM 1841 Views
I look at politics like I look at sports and call races on what I believe will happen random thoughts - 15/08/2011 02:47:35 PM 659 Views
Normally I'd say that's the best approach, but in US politics all teams play for the same owner. Joel - 15/08/2011 04:04:43 PM 1084 Views
I am trying to keep it to just the facts and my opinion of the race random thoughts - 15/08/2011 02:49:47 PM 535 Views
Re: I HAD HIM GOING ALL THE WAY TO THE ROSE BOWL! *NM* Gaps - 15/08/2011 02:08:25 AM 291 Views
Are we surprised by this? nossy - 15/08/2011 07:05:59 PM 615 Views
I really doubt you will like Perry random thoughts - 15/08/2011 07:10:45 PM 597 Views
One never knows. nossy - 15/08/2011 07:15:21 PM 684 Views
I think he is aiming for Vice Pres *NM* Nolan - 17/08/2011 06:44:59 PM 309 Views
Works good for signs: "We Want Plenty of Romney/Pawlenty" *NM* TaskmasterJack - 17/08/2011 10:08:11 PM 300 Views
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