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I'm not surprised no Republican wants to go on the record with that. Joel Send a noteboard - 15/08/2011 05:51:47 AM
and from a liberal news source to boot. I am not claiming that Politico is far left but I typically read it everyday and it with out a doubt left leaning. Hell just the sheer volume of Palin hate stories they have run should be enough to prove that. I don't that with all the press claiming that America will not accept another Texan so soon that it is possible to find some GOPs who are worried about but I do question the significance of it when they are not even willing to say it on the record. In 2007 who would have suspected that the country would elect a 1/2 term senator with a condescending smugness a preacher who shouts "god damn America" from the pulpit and less leadership experience then the average scout leader?

It would be tantamount to political suicide if Perry won the nomination and the presidency (not that I really think either is possible). As for your evaluation of media sources, you've pretty much said many times that you divide the media into right and left wing biased camps, excusing those with admitted right wing bias on the basis of allegations of left wing bias against the others, so I don't take your diagnose of one of the latter as any less biased. You may not like the perception "the liberal media" supposedly created, but that it exists among Republicans with no higher opinion of that media than yours should give you pause.

As to the nations widespread willingness to accept a 1/2 term senator as President, that comes from a general disappointment in the established leaders of both parties. His failure to demonstrate himself as any different from them is, again, his biggest obstacle to re-election, but his biggest asset is the hordes on the far right calling him a "socialist" when more of the country WANTS that than at any time since 1932 (indeed, the parallels with FDR are striking except that 1) Obama didn't have established credentials or party connections and 2) he's consisently pursued the same trickle down policies as his predecessor rather than abandoning them). You may have heard the anti-government GOP gospel, but the Republican insistence on preaching it is bringing Obamas presidency back from the brink of destruction. The hatred anti-government Republicans feel for Obama as a "socialist" is nothing new and won't beat him in 2012 any more than it did in 2008; what's put his presidency in a tailspin is that most of those who elected him by a healthy majority want government to contribute to, even partly accomplish, an economic recovery during which government has largely been MIA unless you're lucky enough to be one of the corporate barons who caused the economic collapse. Telling them they should vote Republican so they can have a government even LESS helpful and MORE generous to the corporate architects of economic disaster is NOT a selling point. You're basically telling them to vote Republican so they can get a more extreme version of Obamas broken promises, which does nothing so much as remind them why they were willing to take a chance on a young senator half way through his first term rather than continue on the same road to ruin they'd already traveled.

Again, not that it matters because Obama has amply demonstrated that, whether we get crony capitalism from him or Romney, that IS what we'll get. But maybe we'll get lucky and have Perry instead, so he can downsize government by taking your home to build toll roads owned by a private Spanish firm/campaign donor and force your children to take drugs made by a pharmaceutical firm/campaign donor. It's rather ironic, really; you get exactly what you want, whichever party is in power, and still think you have to vote Republican to achieve the policy goals whose disasters you misdiagnose.
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