besides the fact that they both have west Texas accents what similarites?
random thoughts Send a noteboard - 15/08/2011 01:59:45 AM
There has been been a lot of squawking from the media but if you get past the fact that they both talk with a West Texas accent they have very little in common. For one thing it is Perry's native accent and not one he acquired. Bush was a privileged son who acted the part of west Texas cowboy. Perry was a dry land farmer who grew up without in door plumbing and is a West Texas cowboy. Bush went to Yale and Harvard while Perry went to Texas A&M. Bush joined the national guard pilot while Perry flew in the real air force. Bush was a moderate who was almost as interested in social programs as a democrat. Perry is a conservative who is more concerned with cutting taxes and spending than he is with leaving no child behind. The press won't like him but hey when is that new for a republican? Perry's hard social conservationism is a going to be a bigger draw back than his accent and since most of the people shallow enough to judge a person by their accent live in hard blue sates I think how much it will hurt him is over rated. The left will hate him every bit as much as they hated Bush but again what does that matter? They will hate anyone who doesn't think like them.
Perry is going to be a strong primary candidate who appeals to the tea party and social conservatives enough to stump Bachamnn and if he can do well in the debates and no skeletons come tumbling out I think he will edge out Romney and it will be so close he might end up making him his running mate though I think Pawlenty might be a goos choice as well. He will be weaker in the general for the exact the same reasons. He will make a weaker general election candidate but in many ways he does contrast well with Obama. He is a charismatic populist that knows how to give a inspiring speech compared to Obama's speeches which sound like commencement addresses heavy on big ideals but light on vision. In a lot of ways Perry reminds me of Clinton. Not policy wise but back ground and personality wise, well he does screw anything that sits still long enough but you get the idea. Like Clinton Perry is a natural politician who can spin out of controversy and twist a question into an invitation to talk about what he wants to to talk about.
Like most of Texas I don't particularly like Perry but I think the press in their echo chamber world are underestimating him. In troubled times people want a strong leader with vision even if they are not 100% behind that vision. Obama has proven he is not that guy. Perry is skilled at selling himself as that guy. In fact Perry's biggest weakness may turn out to be that his not willing enough to temper his position for mass consumption.
Perry is going to be a strong primary candidate who appeals to the tea party and social conservatives enough to stump Bachamnn and if he can do well in the debates and no skeletons come tumbling out I think he will edge out Romney and it will be so close he might end up making him his running mate though I think Pawlenty might be a goos choice as well. He will be weaker in the general for the exact the same reasons. He will make a weaker general election candidate but in many ways he does contrast well with Obama. He is a charismatic populist that knows how to give a inspiring speech compared to Obama's speeches which sound like commencement addresses heavy on big ideals but light on vision. In a lot of ways Perry reminds me of Clinton. Not policy wise but back ground and personality wise, well he does screw anything that sits still long enough but you get the idea. Like Clinton Perry is a natural politician who can spin out of controversy and twist a question into an invitation to talk about what he wants to to talk about.
Like most of Texas I don't particularly like Perry but I think the press in their echo chamber world are underestimating him. In troubled times people want a strong leader with vision even if they are not 100% behind that vision. Obama has proven he is not that guy. Perry is skilled at selling himself as that guy. In fact Perry's biggest weakness may turn out to be that his not willing enough to temper his position for mass consumption.
Tim Pawlenty drops out of the race
14/08/2011 07:20:58 PM
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Bummer, I liked him. *NM*
14/08/2011 07:23:42 PM
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Yeah, him and Cain are the only ones I actually liked to hear talk
14/08/2011 07:38:08 PM
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Grumpy and just nuts enough to be entertaining, from what I've heard...
14/08/2011 08:15:15 PM
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Probably better to say he's not polished
14/08/2011 08:46:37 PM
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Yeah, as Aisha says, it's the Islam issue he sounded the craziest on...
14/08/2011 11:16:20 PM
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Re: Yeah, as Aisha says, it's the Islam issue he sounded the craziest on...
15/08/2011 12:02:22 AM
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well I don't think his posistion on Israel will play much of a factor one way or the other
15/08/2011 02:07:55 AM
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I've never really gotten to know him... which kind of says enough.
14/08/2011 07:35:40 PM
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I think Michelle Bachman and Herman Cain are awesome. You should consider them *NM*
14/08/2011 09:25:55 PM
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About fucking time. Now if we could just get Santorum to drop, too.
14/08/2011 09:28:53 PM
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He'd indicated he would
14/08/2011 11:47:03 PM
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Oh, I don't think Bachmann WILL be kingmaker, but that's her goal.
15/08/2011 02:39:51 PM
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bachman is gonna be the vice presidential nominee for either Perry or Romney
15/08/2011 04:22:33 AM
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funny that I only see liberals making an issue of his religion *NM*
15/08/2011 05:13:03 AM
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It's a clumsy attempt to poison the well
15/08/2011 05:59:26 AM
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Re: It's a clumsy attempt to poison the well
15/08/2011 07:13:01 AM
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Dems used to chase the evangelical vote, and the Church never should've permitted a political coup.
15/08/2011 09:22:53 AM
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For the record, I'm not trying to poison any wells.
15/08/2011 09:54:53 AM
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I think the deal with Huckabee
15/08/2011 07:21:08 PM
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Huckabee didn't hide his beliefs, but also made clear he wouldn't try to legislate them.
16/08/2011 12:58:48 PM
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yeah i guess it was s liberal Fox reporter/talking head/whatever the Eff they are called
15/08/2011 07:07:07 AM
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I'm not sure why she had to apologize for saying that.
15/08/2011 09:56:39 AM
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because its not true? Mormons ARE Christians arent they?
15/08/2011 04:52:32 PM
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Except their founder taught, and his church teaches, that man is his own savior.
15/08/2011 05:54:28 PM
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well ok then, i didnt know all that
15/08/2011 06:58:22 PM
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Precisely; every Mormon you ever meet will ALWAYS insist they're Christian.
16/08/2011 01:57:06 PM
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So nutcase liberals and one woman on Fox News and she had the decency to apologize *NM*
15/08/2011 02:04:44 PM
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I find that highly unlikely.
15/08/2011 02:47:35 PM
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I personally am considering voting for Romney , but I wouldnt underestimate Bachman and her power
15/08/2011 04:58:19 PM
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Also, it is very likely that Palin will not enter.....
14/08/2011 09:58:48 PM
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besides the fact that they both have west Texas accents what similarites?
15/08/2011 01:59:45 AM
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By the way, why did Kay B Hutch run against him in the primary election?
15/08/2011 03:43:52 AM
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Some did want to dump him, over the toll roads and mandatory HPV vaccines for school girls.
15/08/2011 03:58:38 AM
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you call losing by 15 points competing? *NM*
15/08/2011 04:07:08 AM
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It was 12.9%, which is pretty good for a Dem in a very red state during a very red year.
15/08/2011 04:26:58 AM
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Isn't that almost the exact same numbers Obama lost by in Texas?
15/08/2011 05:02:57 AM
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Roughly; are you going to pretend that 2010 was as good a year for Dems as 2008?
15/08/2011 05:34:32 AM
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there was a perception that he was vulnerable
15/08/2011 04:48:41 AM
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He was vulnerable, he only won in 06 with 39 percent of the vote *NM*
15/08/2011 01:14:43 PM
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I have to agree with the take that it's symptomatic of a larger problem.
14/08/2011 10:23:02 PM
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There's no "victory laurel" there. The Iowa straw poll is as irrelevant as lint in one's navel.
14/08/2011 11:13:36 PM
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Largely true; it matters to people like Bachmann who need credibility, but to few others.
15/08/2011 12:20:48 AM
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unnamed sources from left leaning news source? who could question that *NM*
15/08/2011 01:25:07 AM
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Just because you don't like the quote doesn't make the person citing it "left leaning".
15/08/2011 02:00:15 AM
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It was a quote from Politico which is a left leaning news blog and the sources were unnamed
15/08/2011 02:14:09 AM
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If you say so.
15/08/2011 03:53:08 AM
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so you are going to just ignore the fact that your entire argument is based on unnamed sources?
15/08/2011 05:12:01 AM
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I'm not surprised no Republican wants to go on the record with that.
15/08/2011 05:51:47 AM
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I'm kinda curious how this thread got controversial
15/08/2011 06:26:15 AM
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Probably because I opined my impression that most of the viable GOP field looks pretty unimpressive.
15/08/2011 09:11:45 AM
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I look at politics like I look at sports and call races on what I believe will happen
15/08/2011 02:47:35 PM
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Normally I'd say that's the best approach, but in US politics all teams play for the same owner.
15/08/2011 04:04:43 PM
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I am trying to keep it to just the facts and my opinion of the race
15/08/2011 02:49:47 PM
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Are we surprised by this?
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