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Agree on the first part snoopcester Send a noteboard - 09/08/2011 01:05:01 PM
On being the 1st to try and score cheap political points. He seems to think this is a backlash against the upper class and the man from the disenfranchised in society. Honestly what world does he live in, it's a bunch of thugs who think it's funny to burn stuff, hit stuff and nick stuff, and nothing more.

They wouldn't even know who or what the man is, never mind having the wherewithal to lash against him.


He pissed me off a fair bit with using this as part of his election campaign. He did make fair points though - Boris should have been back after Saturday night and I think he is quite right that disenfranchisement is a major factor in this. I don't recall him just saying it was about sticking it to the man but that it was that they felt society didn't give them anything so they didn't feel they had any duty to it.

Some sel important idiot in the Torygraph got straight into the cheap points scoring as well - he accepts there were many factors involved... but he's going to attack multiculturalism and heap all the blame on people who back it.
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London snoopcester - 08/08/2011 12:08:35 PM 1920 Views
i freaked out when i heard about that Yunalesca - 08/08/2011 02:09:10 PM 1144 Views
Re: i freaked out when i heard about that snoopcester - 08/08/2011 02:47:16 PM 993 Views
It's pretty scary. Rebekah - 08/08/2011 02:19:51 PM 1019 Views
I found it somewhat last night, having a sister who lives in Brixton snoopcester - 08/08/2011 02:50:57 PM 1030 Views
I'm sure the media will manage to blame the police somehow Wibble - 08/08/2011 03:11:40 PM 935 Views
I've been following the story. Spriteling - 08/08/2011 03:26:51 PM 981 Views
I cannot quite make out what is going on Camilla - 08/08/2011 03:27:57 PM 1140 Views
No, that's about it as far as we know Wibble - 08/08/2011 03:40:15 PM 1169 Views
Re: I cannot quite make out what is going on snoopcester - 08/08/2011 03:40:21 PM 1034 Views
Continue to use live ammunition until no one is protesting. *NM* Tom - 08/08/2011 03:53:50 PM 531 Views
Sounds good to me *NM* Wibble - 08/08/2011 04:06:04 PM 513 Views
Okay, bored of these riots now, time for the police to follow 10CCs example... Wibble - 08/08/2011 09:28:36 PM 1071 Views
Given what has been reported snoopcester - 08/08/2011 04:07:13 PM 1089 Views
So, did the original suspect have a gun/fire bullets? beetnemesis - 09/08/2011 04:19:16 PM 1073 Views
Had a gun, didn't fire snoopcester - 09/08/2011 06:51:54 PM 1007 Views
Not actually true Wibble - 09/08/2011 07:01:33 PM 980 Views
Seems it isn't exactly but I'm not sure your reply is 100% true either snoopcester - 09/08/2011 07:27:00 PM 1082 Views
Now that's a good point Wibble - 09/08/2011 07:45:26 PM 1042 Views
I think with both they're putting disclaimers in snoopcester - 09/08/2011 08:56:17 PM 1089 Views
There's no evidence he didn't fire? Imagine that. Joel - 09/08/2011 11:22:05 PM 987 Views
He's saying the evidence available is inconclusive either way. Rebekah - 09/08/2011 11:37:06 PM 1056 Views
Fair enough. Joel - 09/08/2011 11:56:16 PM 1108 Views
There are various proofs snoopcester - 10/08/2011 12:06:41 AM 1000 Views
True, but if tests are inconclusive rather than merely incomplete those proofs may not be available. Joel - 10/08/2011 12:47:34 AM 1029 Views
Bullshit Wibble - 10/08/2011 01:12:46 AM 892 Views
If that's the case it's hard to say they overreacted. Joel - 10/08/2011 01:22:45 AM 892 Views
I do see why it matters if he fired or not random thoughts - 10/08/2011 12:46:12 AM 950 Views
Again, I don't know the British standard, so I can only guess how it works. Joel - 10/08/2011 12:54:20 AM 1038 Views
Though if he had a gun, in a sock, not drawn... beetnemesis - 10/08/2011 01:50:05 AM 1001 Views
sadly the rioters didn't wait for facts random thoughts - 10/08/2011 02:56:46 AM 1132 Views
They've announced that the "unknown" gun was never fired beetnemesis - 10/08/2011 02:04:26 PM 984 Views
So? Are the police supposed to let him get the first shot? *NM* random thoughts - 10/08/2011 03:15:59 PM 539 Views
...said Gaddafi. *NM* Tim - 10/08/2011 12:11:31 AM 511 Views
And?... *NM* Wibble - 10/08/2011 12:17:51 AM 484 Views
And we just went to war with him because he was shooting people in the street. Tim - 10/08/2011 09:56:07 AM 1026 Views
Last time I checked, you guys have a vote. First past the post, sure, but it's still a vote. Tom - 10/08/2011 04:33:07 AM 969 Views
Is there any other country that has a death penalty for children caught stealing? *NM* Tim - 10/08/2011 10:02:56 AM 536 Views
Maybe not, but we can hope there is... *NM* Tom - 10/08/2011 02:04:38 PM 474 Views
You can hope there is. Tim - 10/08/2011 02:21:17 PM 986 Views
...you guys need a poster named Tam, and a sitcom, stat. *NM* beetnemesis - 10/08/2011 05:11:57 PM 527 Views
+1 Yunalesca - 10/08/2011 05:17:22 PM 994 Views
Wibble is called Tam (Scots) or Tom (English), and used to go by dragon_tam. Tim - 10/08/2011 05:27:16 PM 1094 Views
LMAO *NM* Aisha - 10/08/2011 06:22:11 PM 524 Views
If you want to talk statistics... Tom - 13/08/2011 08:26:39 PM 945 Views
So the death penalty is a deterrent for the crimes it doesn't apply to, but not for those it does? Tim - 14/08/2011 10:58:14 AM 1129 Views
No, that wasn't my point. Tom - 14/08/2011 09:39:14 PM 1106 Views
light yagami felt the same way Yunalesca - 14/08/2011 01:20:02 PM 1095 Views
Please speak English. *NM* Tom - 14/08/2011 09:39:46 PM 524 Views
They think they have a good reason for what they're doing snoopcester - 10/08/2011 11:48:52 AM 945 Views
If they react even more indignantly to a harsh crackdown, maybe they do. Tom - 10/08/2011 02:06:04 PM 867 Views
Oh? snoopcester - 10/08/2011 04:05:55 PM 1055 Views
This is the first I've heard of it; here's hoping and praying the damage is restricted to property Joel - 08/08/2011 06:59:06 PM 1038 Views
I am sure dart_board - 09/08/2011 06:34:40 PM 1037 Views
I don't recall mentioning any of those groups in connection with this. Joel - 09/08/2011 07:29:01 PM 942 Views
You will. *NM* dart_board - 10/08/2011 12:14:22 AM 499 Views
I've had plenty of opportunites and still didn't, even when rt practically teed one up for me. Joel - 10/08/2011 12:25:09 AM 986 Views
This is utterly awful. Rebekah - 08/08/2011 09:41:46 PM 1097 Views
Yeah - it has massively spread today. Just saw footage of youths looting a Sainburys in Birmingham snoopcester - 08/08/2011 09:52:32 PM 1025 Views
And if they had got the army out Wibble - 08/08/2011 09:57:40 PM 1007 Views
That's true. Rebekah - 08/08/2011 10:03:03 PM 990 Views
pfft Yunalesca - 08/08/2011 10:23:37 PM 956 Views
I think the vast majority of people would be just fine with it snoopcester - 08/08/2011 10:08:34 PM 1147 Views
They call it "martial law" for a reason. Joel - 09/08/2011 02:30:40 AM 997 Views
Might work in the US snoopcester - 09/08/2011 02:13:50 PM 1031 Views
When most of the looters are kids I can see how that would be problematic. Joel - 09/08/2011 05:18:09 PM 1007 Views
Joel I don't believe any looters were shot in the Rodney King riots random thoughts - 09/08/2011 05:41:44 PM 978 Views
Police were, from what I understand, hard to find during those riots. Joel - 09/08/2011 05:51:11 PM 985 Views
I am just questioning the logic of the debate taking place here random thoughts - 09/08/2011 06:33:11 PM 940 Views
Your notoriously faulty memory is by far the lesser problem here. Joel - 09/08/2011 07:14:07 PM 1251 Views
That article supports my argument random thoughts - 09/08/2011 08:55:15 PM 905 Views
OK I blame the site for this random double post. I hit submit once. random thoughts - 09/08/2011 08:55:17 PM 953 Views
I can't really argue with anything you've said here, so I won't try. Joel - 09/08/2011 11:11:17 PM 1094 Views
so now you are comparing the rioters to the Tea Party? I guess dartboard was almost right random thoughts - 10/08/2011 12:51:46 AM 1023 Views
I'm comparing alienation to alienation and noting that it's pervasive. Joel - 10/08/2011 01:19:49 AM 1089 Views
and I am saying you have no idea who the tea party is random thoughts - 10/08/2011 03:06:15 AM 971 Views
I guess I should've used the Progressive Caucus instead. Joel - 10/08/2011 04:25:30 PM 1044 Views
Seriously, is it mostly kids? nossy - 08/08/2011 10:08:00 PM 932 Views
They don't have parents Wibble - 08/08/2011 10:10:07 PM 1131 Views
A hell of a lot seem to be snoopcester - 08/08/2011 10:12:21 PM 997 Views
I'd be tempted to go down there with a cattle prod. nossy - 08/08/2011 10:14:14 PM 1060 Views
I think there might be too many of them snoopcester - 08/08/2011 10:23:05 PM 986 Views
If that link still isn't working, try here snoopcester - 08/08/2011 10:29:19 PM 940 Views
I know that if I had ever participated in anything like that, my mother would have kicked my ass. Avendesora - 09/08/2011 08:48:09 PM 1108 Views
its getting absolutely mental Yunalesca - 08/08/2011 10:21:32 PM 978 Views
Congratulations Ken Livingstone Wibble - 08/08/2011 11:44:29 PM 1021 Views
Agree on the first part snoopcester - 09/08/2011 01:05:01 PM 1028 Views
Um... This is the first I've read / heard about it Two Wongs - 09/08/2011 03:43:02 AM 951 Views
Looks a bit like a post-apocalyptic sci-fi movie Sports_Gambler - 09/08/2011 06:38:59 AM 1027 Views
Apparently that's a surprisingly common error. Joel - 09/08/2011 12:34:30 PM 1037 Views
Horrible Mark - 09/08/2011 11:18:21 AM 908 Views
Yes snoopcester - 09/08/2011 12:55:00 PM 1088 Views
Tumblr blog where ppl are submitting pictures of the looters Two Wongs - 09/08/2011 12:49:39 PM 951 Views
People have set up the same thing on Facebook and flickr as well snoopcester - 09/08/2011 01:23:42 PM 1005 Views
... Two Wongs - 09/08/2011 04:12:55 PM 990 Views
Before and after pictures of buildings/businesses from BBC Fox and Ravens - 09/08/2011 02:12:24 PM 1138 Views
Holy crap, what is wrong with those people?? ironclad - 09/08/2011 02:23:39 PM 960 Views
how does 'they are brainless idiots' grab you? *NM* Yunalesca - 09/08/2011 05:03:51 PM 434 Views
What's with that last picture set? Nate - 09/08/2011 04:39:53 PM 1009 Views
Never figured the Iranian government for having much of a sense of hunour, snoopcester - 09/08/2011 02:26:01 PM 1068 Views
The hypocricy there is mind-boggling. *NM* Macharius - 09/08/2011 05:03:28 PM 458 Views
I imagine that's the point. Nate - 09/08/2011 05:33:09 PM 1131 Views
That was my take on it as well snoopcester - 09/08/2011 07:03:51 PM 1047 Views
Re: That was my take on it as well Camilla - 11/08/2011 11:32:12 AM 1091 Views
*sprays water over laptop screen* Yunalesca - 09/08/2011 05:07:07 PM 993 Views
lol wow...that was a bit much *NM* Aisha - 09/08/2011 05:26:33 PM 445 Views
To be fair Sidious - 09/08/2011 06:24:58 PM 1255 Views
You make a fair point. snoopcester - 09/08/2011 07:05:26 PM 925 Views
Send in the army! Two Wongs - 09/08/2011 11:37:15 PM 909 Views
That is just lovely. *NM* Camilla - 11/08/2011 11:27:34 AM 465 Views
Remember you're a womble! Zeeb - 09/08/2011 06:49:52 PM 1002 Views
Yes snoopcester - 09/08/2011 07:09:35 PM 1040 Views
Re: Yes Zeeb - 09/08/2011 07:32:18 PM 995 Views
i can see the smoke from the sony factory fire out of my bedroom window Yunalesca - 09/08/2011 07:21:08 PM 1026 Views
This is all quite... surreal. It's hard to believe. Avendesora - 09/08/2011 08:54:57 PM 956 Views
The surreal thing is London is still full of tourists who seem to not have a care in the world snoopcester - 09/08/2011 09:03:11 PM 953 Views
Well, it's not really anti-foreigner sentiment, is it? beetnemesis - 10/08/2011 01:57:55 AM 1038 Views
Not yet but then it isn't pro either snoopcester - 10/08/2011 10:25:13 AM 1020 Views
She has a grandson to meet for the first time, then she's off traveling with a friend. Avendesora - 10/08/2011 03:27:37 AM 1026 Views
Well to clarify, it isn't that I think it is very unsafe just not a good time to go somewhere snoopcester - 10/08/2011 10:19:03 AM 931 Views
I'm flying to the midlands tomorrow. Helene - 10/08/2011 07:35:28 AM 992 Views
It seems to be only happening in the evenings and at night. Tim - 10/08/2011 10:59:55 AM 910 Views
I have been keeping an eye on it; we have friends in Highbury Druid - 10/08/2011 05:07:16 AM 1102 Views
Re: I have been keeping an eye on it; we have friends in Highbury snoopcester - 10/08/2011 10:47:46 AM 1099 Views
Oi!!! Druid - 11/08/2011 04:40:04 AM 1165 Views
Aussie, Aussie? snoopcester - 11/08/2011 11:50:47 AM 1077 Views
I saw Nick Griffin's twitter last night Stephen - 10/08/2011 12:23:01 PM 958 Views
Yeah, I saw he had been. He's a great little scum bag snoopcester - 10/08/2011 12:47:34 PM 1060 Views
*dual facepalm* Yunalesca - 10/08/2011 02:45:03 PM 1014 Views
Effing EDL snoopcester - 10/08/2011 09:28:41 PM 1063 Views
I liked this blog Camilla - 11/08/2011 11:29:42 AM 975 Views
Quite good snoopcester - 12/08/2011 02:57:35 PM 1043 Views
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