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Re: My best guess Bramhodoulos Send a noteboard - 07/08/2011 06:47:26 PM
So are you going to tell us who this mystery author is? I would like to know.

I don’t see how observation of NS does not imply developed from NS. If a process is ongoing and works then one can assume it has always worked in that manner, therefore speciation from NS is the most viable and logical reasoning for the species which exist in the world.

I also don’t see how NS is simple. Conceptually, yes it is simple but to understand the hows and whys of NS it requires more than a simple understanding of biology. There are many different processes which contribute to NS, each process requiring knowledge of biology, chemistry and physics. Each process clarifies the picture, but even missing one of these points will result in a failure to truly understand how NS works.

I would also suggest reading, “The Greatest Show on Earth: The Evidence for Evolution” by Richard Dawkins. He can get a little preachy at times but it very clearly outlines the processes involved in evolution, why they work and how they have been tested, including NS.


Well, for the simplicity of NS, I do agree that when one tries to describe it for a very specific situation it can be very difficult, but yes I was refering to the concept.

The book I'm reading is 'The Biotic Message' from Walter James ReMine.
Two things about this book though, or actually three.
The first being that you can probably only buy it at creationist websites. Most creationist webstores have a very big variety in quality of books (and other materials). I'd say about half is stupid or very short, about 40% is reasonable and about 10% is worthy of being read by academics.
The second thing would be that it is a challenge to read. I'm not unintelligent, mind me (doing a Master in Theology), but it's not always easy to get his point.
The third thing is that, though I have a sympathy for his own theory, like with most books, he is much, much better in explaining why others are wrong, but less good when explaining why he himself is right

As for Dawkins, I've read one of his books a few years ago and was unimpressed. I've done a minor in biology and geology, just to get some of the basics and jargon, so I'd prefer something more substantial if you don't mind.
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