When did Boehner agree to $800 billion in revenue increases?!
Joel Send a noteboard - 06/08/2011 08:49:51 PM
You all need to slow your roll.....yes, I am hip.
The "Tea Party" is 80-90 out of 435 members of the House and a handful of Senators. Obama had the chance to lead and cut a deal with everyone else. This didn't work because there are as many left-wing wackos in Congress than Tea-Baggers and Obama couldn't lead these folks.
Bottom-line, Obama is OUR PRESIDENT. Leaders have to lead and get the job done. S&P has been saying since the start of the year that significant deficit reduction was needed. Boehner agreed to $800B in revenue increases, but Obama pushed for more, so the grand bargin fell apart.
Once again, no leadership coming from the WH. As my wonderful Governor (Chris Christie) says, leaders have to lead on the easy issues and the tough issues. And if something critcal gets f'ed up, regardless of who did what, you are mostly to blame. That's part of the job signed up for. If he is afraid to make tough decisions, he can go back to the IL State Senate where he can hide and vote present over 100 times.
The "Tea Party" is 80-90 out of 435 members of the House and a handful of Senators. Obama had the chance to lead and cut a deal with everyone else. This didn't work because there are as many left-wing wackos in Congress than Tea-Baggers and Obama couldn't lead these folks.
Bottom-line, Obama is OUR PRESIDENT. Leaders have to lead and get the job done. S&P has been saying since the start of the year that significant deficit reduction was needed. Boehner agreed to $800B in revenue increases, but Obama pushed for more, so the grand bargin fell apart.
Once again, no leadership coming from the WH. As my wonderful Governor (Chris Christie) says, leaders have to lead on the easy issues and the tough issues. And if something critcal gets f'ed up, regardless of who did what, you are mostly to blame. That's part of the job signed up for. If he is afraid to make tough decisions, he can go back to the IL State Senate where he can hide and vote present over 100 times.
Every report I've seen states that he said he liked it, then backed out because he couldn't sell it to House Tea Partiers. As to what Obama could get Democrats to accept, in that same deal HE offered real Medicare cuts and a reduction of SS CoLA that he sold to Pelosi and Reid via the revenue increases. Too bad Boehner walked because the Tea Party wouldn't vote for it, but then, he couldn't even get a bill he singlehandedly wrote through his own House until he changed it into a carbon copy of CC&B. If you're saying the leaders of both parties should resign, I'll drink to that, but you're loopy if you genuinely think it's Obamas fault S&P says they cut our credit rating "because the majority of Republicans in Congress continue to resist any measure that would raise revenues" and further cites Republican "brinksmanship" over the previously routine debt ceiling extension.
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US Credit Rate Downgraded - Obama should resign.....
- 06/08/2011 04:12:48 AM
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you, it was the tea party republicans that caused this
- 06/08/2011 05:57:16 AM
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- 06/08/2011 04:12:48 AM
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Que tonterías.
- 06/08/2011 04:23:49 AM
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Really?
- 06/08/2011 05:05:48 AM
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Leaders have to lead.....
- 06/08/2011 05:18:21 AM
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Cuts aren't up to him, though.
- 06/08/2011 05:37:50 AM
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Yeah, sure, the President has no say or control.....good grief.....
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- 06/08/2011 06:13:49 AM
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- 06/08/2011 06:13:49 AM
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S&P didn't demand cuts, they demanded fiscal responsibility.
- 06/08/2011 03:18:10 PM
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and haters gotta hate..... *NM*
- 06/08/2011 05:49:25 AM
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I admit it, I hate what Obama is doing to our country..... *NM*
- 06/08/2011 06:12:39 AM
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you, it was the tea party republicans that caused this
- 06/08/2011 05:57:16 AM
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As ever your disinterest in facts seems to be central to your posting.
- 06/08/2011 11:34:20 AM
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Which would be less annoying if so much of Congress didn't suffer from the same delusions.
- 06/08/2011 03:48:04 PM
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Does Timmy G play sax like his brother Kenny? *NM*
- 06/08/2011 01:11:17 PM
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Fun fact - I dated in HS Kenny G's niece.....
- 06/08/2011 03:13:52 PM
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S&P specifically cited GOP refusal to raise taxes among their reasons.
- 06/08/2011 03:10:22 PM
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Of course one could just read the actual S&P report
- 06/08/2011 04:01:07 PM
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Sure.
- 06/08/2011 04:53:47 PM
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Right, ABC new's summary of the report is not the report
- 06/08/2011 07:02:46 PM
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Link works, but I'm not sure why you think it refutes snoops assessment or mine.
- 06/08/2011 08:35:10 PM
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It doesn't refute it, it just isn't this simple distillation you're offering
- 06/08/2011 09:23:33 PM
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It's more than half a sentence; I quoted several paragraphs.
- 06/08/2011 09:56:31 PM
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Well yes, after I gave you the report, I think I'm pretty obviously refering to before that 
- 06/08/2011 11:02:17 PM
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- 06/08/2011 11:02:17 PM
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Before that I was referring to the paragraphs quoted in the ABC report.
- 07/08/2011 01:21:18 AM
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not really
- 06/08/2011 10:15:32 PM
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"the mix of spending and revenue measures"
- 06/08/2011 10:23:06 PM
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So you read the statement that they take no posistion as they take the dem position?
- 07/08/2011 04:51:58 AM
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I read a "mix" to be a mix.
- 09/08/2011 12:14:35 AM
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So in other words you just ignore the actaull words and read it say what you want it to say *NM*
- 09/08/2011 02:07:57 PM
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A mix of something and nothing is impossible; one thing is one thing, not a mix.
- 09/08/2011 04:56:00 PM
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US politicians are too busy fighting over who gets to play the fiddle. *NM*
- 06/08/2011 05:53:32 PM
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You are either really naive or just stupid. Which is it? *NM*
Reply to everyone whining about the Tea Party.....
- 06/08/2011 06:58:40 PM
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When did Boehner agree to $800 billion in revenue increases?!
- 06/08/2011 08:49:51 PM
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would him resigning really help?
- 07/08/2011 10:24:00 AM
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not as long as he has the high functioning moron Joe Biden as VP.
- 08/08/2011 12:34:32 AM
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In reality, its Congress (BOTH parties) AND the President who are to blame.
- 08/08/2011 01:59:13 AM
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40% is not a small tax increase and a small spending cut
- 09/08/2011 04:20:28 AM
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Why are people making a deal about the debt ceiling increase?
- 09/08/2011 03:42:13 PM
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Because, when you get down to it, the debt ceilings very existence was always a political threat.
- 09/08/2011 05:02:12 PM
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