Elected people need to work togeather. I hate all this posturing. We are worse for it. And their is no point in taking joy in another's lose. Problem solved lets move on.
Problem not solved incidentally, a small engagement has resulted in a somewhat inconclusive victory for the GOP.
And politicians generally get along just fine and agree with each other on virtually everything, it's just that the 'virtually everything' after 200 years of legislation has been so throughly decided that day-to-day decisions have been delegated to cabinet or local authority. Most remaining things are still pretty cut and dry and worked out in committee before going up for a real quick vote with overwhelming majority or getting attached and re-attached to other bills until it's on one that passes. So all that leaves Emergencies, generally funding gets passed like 97-0, and new but relatively minor issues that have popped from some new piece of tech/culture shifting the paradigm. Finally, there's the ideological differences, those make good newsfeed, and they are also things people just won't bend on, typically for damn good reason.
To a degree, there is a bit more strife, it's kinda a reality TV Show effect. People used to get their politics in 2 minute helpings on the nightly news with a few editorials in the paper and a couple shows on Sunday morning, now it's 24/7 news with lots of blogs. So that spotlights stuff, but there is an observer effect too. Doing a reality show on something normal tends to make a week's worth of footage get boiled down to an hour, and the typically boil it down to the parts people find interesting, which generally are specifically not 'something normal' and subsequent shows tend to go out of there way to find the abnormal and to cast people who want attention be it good or bad... something very similiar tends to happen in politics, but mostly the answer to 'why can't they just work together?' is "They do, and all you're seeing is the five-minute spat between friends or coworkers in an otherwise uneventful week". C-span, for instance, is generally much more polite, detailed, and informative then CNN, Fox, MSNBC, and the various blogs... but not many people watch it.
The stampede of Congressmen from both parties leaving DC because they can't stand the downright vicious bickering and hatred argues that the environment you speak of no longer exists. As does a leading candidate for the GOP Presidential nomination demanding Congressional investigation into Obama for un-American activities just a few years ago. Beating "them" is now officially more important than the countrys well being; that's why Boehner couldn't get a spending cut/tax hike deal that balanced the budget and reduced our debt: Cantor and Co. wouldn't let him. It's also why the only way Obama can get Republicans to agree to any "deal" is to grant all their concessions while getting none in return.
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Reid/Democrats cave, Republicans win debt ceiling debate -
25/07/2011 07:29:17 PM
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Why must it always be us against them
25/07/2011 08:12:48 PM
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Two-party system = us vs. them
25/07/2011 09:00:31 PM
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fuck you
26/07/2011 03:17:04 AM
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HA! HA! - I think I broke moondog's mind.....
26/07/2011 04:09:59 AM
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it's not about support, it's about getting *some* of what you want
26/07/2011 06:31:26 AM
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I am only getting "some" of what I want.....
26/07/2011 03:01:28 PM
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when your position is intractable, don't be surprised when people refuse to work with you
26/07/2011 03:55:28 PM
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It generally isn't
25/07/2011 09:30:36 PM
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It formerly wasn't.
25/07/2011 10:22:47 PM
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That's mostly BS
26/07/2011 12:57:26 AM
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Boehner was onboard with Obamas initial deal but cited his caucus as the reason he backed out of it.
26/07/2011 01:39:06 AM
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I'm sorry, did I mention Boehner in my message somewhere? Or the deal?
26/07/2011 03:11:40 AM
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Re: I'm sorry, did I mention Boehner in my message somewhere? Or the deal?
29/07/2011 08:26:12 AM
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Is there some lack of understanding about 'tangent' maybe?
30/07/2011 04:57:15 AM
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Not at all; you stated exactly why I wasn't being tangential.
30/07/2011 12:47:08 PM
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You're making overtly contradictory statements now, so I think we're done
31/07/2011 01:57:37 AM
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It's not just about his reelection. Can you imagine having this circus again next year?
25/07/2011 09:16:17 PM
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or he is worried that with and election coming more dems will break ranks
25/07/2011 10:00:56 PM
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Yeah, pretty much.
25/07/2011 10:12:03 PM
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Reid didn't cave as much as you might think
25/07/2011 11:58:08 PM
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I agree with that.
25/07/2011 11:59:41 PM
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to bad we have a media more interested in hyping the drama than they are in cutting through BS
26/07/2011 01:42:39 AM
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we need a law like they have in canada that you can't lie during a newscast
26/07/2011 03:58:38 PM
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Yeah, but any tax hikes, and any Dem leverage, is gone now.
26/07/2011 01:51:04 AM
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the tax cuts are set to expire on their own, they don't need to vote to cancel them.
26/07/2011 02:04:58 PM
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Yes, but they voted to extend them last winter, which you insist was the Dems fault.
27/07/2011 03:30:33 AM
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