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Calling my response a knee jerk reaction is just silly, and in itself, a knee jerk response. Helene Send a noteboard - 16/06/2011 07:38:28 PM
I wrote a relevant response that analyzed your definition, and then pointed out that it appears to be a combination of things that constitute prudishness and things that would make a woman sexually compatible with you.

When someone is prudish, they will most likely display nearly all of the traits you described. It would be highly unlikely that a person wouldn't want to have sex with the light on, but wouldn't have an issue with masturbating in front of their partner or looking at their naked bodies. So the first one automatically contains 2 others. This hardly makes it a useful list.

The prudish traits all point to a lack of confidence, caused by a negative body image and/or lack of comfortableness with sexuality.

The sexually compatible traits all point to what would make a woman sexually compatible with you. They're more about sexual preferences. A woman who doesn't like giving head and doesn't like receiving anal sex and doesn't want to participate in a fetish isn't necessarily a prude. She is necessarily sexually incompatible with you.

Also, there's a huge difference between not wanting to do certain positions, and not wanting to do anything other than missionary. If that's what you intended, then you phrased it wrongly.
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He’s Just Not That Into Anyone (an article about watching porn and men's changing libidos). - 11/06/2011 10:52:10 PM 3176 Views
I disagree with the whole last third or fourth of the article. - 12/06/2011 02:01:40 AM 958 Views
Re: I disagree with the whole last third or fourth of the article. - 12/06/2011 08:49:39 PM 1239 Views
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Funny - 13/06/2011 01:22:28 AM 1148 Views
You obviously never had a fulfilling long term sexual relationship with a woman. - 13/06/2011 10:43:23 AM 920 Views
Oh My - 13/06/2011 03:29:34 PM 959 Views
*giggle* - 13/06/2011 03:46:28 PM 988 Views
What did I do to put a bee in your bonnet? *NM* - 13/06/2011 06:23:01 PM 433 Views
Bee? - 13/06/2011 06:24:35 PM 952 Views
Oh, I tend to be loving and appreciative - 13/06/2011 05:08:56 PM 913 Views
That isnt fair, Helene *NM* - 13/06/2011 06:22:25 PM 481 Views
What isn't fair? - 13/06/2011 08:07:08 PM 1129 Views
I'm not looking for someone to fix, but the not fair bit I was refering to was little irony dig *NM* - 13/06/2011 10:10:11 PM 498 Views
You don't need to be broken to enjoy being appreciated - 13/06/2011 10:17:01 PM 916 Views
No, Helene, You repeatedly attempt to sidetrack discussion with attacks against my person - 13/06/2011 10:20:01 PM 1053 Views
But it makes me feel good - 13/06/2011 10:45:07 PM 925 Views
I'm not a hedonist - 13/06/2011 10:57:25 PM 1081 Views
So indignant! - 13/06/2011 11:53:41 PM 1084 Views
I don't believe that at all. - 13/06/2011 04:48:26 AM 1066 Views
Entirely agree *NM* - 13/06/2011 04:33:04 PM 523 Views
Showing appreciation is a losing strategy. - 13/06/2011 04:55:09 AM 1028 Views
So you don't know how to open a woman up sexually - 13/06/2011 10:51:17 AM 1035 Views
Oh how clever of you! - 13/06/2011 09:59:01 PM 1119 Views
Not to gang up on you or anything, but... - 13/06/2011 10:15:57 PM 1045 Views
It's that the prudishness is indicative of a more general sense of entitlement and manipulativeness. - 13/06/2011 11:02:20 PM 1121 Views
Yes. And "passive-aggressive behavior" is another one I'd add. *NM* - 13/06/2011 11:18:40 PM 386 Views
So far in this debate, you've only displayed your feelings of entitlement - 14/06/2011 12:05:16 AM 924 Views
Guys have their own problems, but the conversation is revolving around women at the moment. *NM* *NM* - 14/06/2011 01:23:20 AM 493 Views
The conversation did start being about MEN's problems. - 14/06/2011 03:36:36 AM 996 Views
Be good, Ana. - 14/06/2011 03:40:12 AM 776 Views
You may be mistaken. - 14/06/2011 03:54:28 AM 1001 Views
Thats unfortuanate, Ana - 14/06/2011 03:58:50 AM 901 Views
I am introspecting, yes. - 14/06/2011 04:02:32 AM 902 Views
No, I wasnt attempting to do so - 14/06/2011 04:09:29 AM 1058 Views
Re: You may be mistaken. - 15/06/2011 01:21:16 AM 1058 Views
The only reason the conversation is revolving around women is because Tom laid all the blame at - 14/06/2011 07:35:34 AM 1092 Views
Let's be clear: I was speaking about American women *NM* - 14/06/2011 02:10:10 PM 390 Views
Oh, that part is quite clear. *NM* - 14/06/2011 08:25:08 PM 510 Views
Wow.. all the misogynists came out to play - 13/06/2011 11:57:05 PM 1100 Views
I'm glad you're in here. - 14/06/2011 12:04:03 AM 1046 Views
Seconded *NM* - 14/06/2011 04:46:38 PM 459 Views
I don't see a lot of misogyny. - 14/06/2011 12:59:06 AM 865 Views
You are blind to misogyny because you lack awareness in that area - 14/06/2011 07:38:48 AM 927 Views
Okay, so I'm a date rapist and a misogynist...real classy - 14/06/2011 02:11:40 PM 862 Views
I neither called you a date rapist nor a misogynist - 14/06/2011 03:10:46 PM 900 Views
Why misogynist? Why not Anti-American? - 14/06/2011 01:32:17 AM 1422 Views
So, which women are better than American women? - 14/06/2011 03:38:38 AM 1071 Views
Re: Haha - 14/06/2011 04:18:46 AM 961 Views
You seem very intent on coming off as the smartest guy in the room. - 14/06/2011 04:40:26 AM 1059 Views
I think that's an unfair characterization of the RP board - 14/06/2011 04:58:29 AM 952 Views
Ha! I'm just fucking around. - 14/06/2011 05:14:20 AM 992 Views
Re: Ha! I'm just fucking around. - 14/06/2011 05:42:37 AM 814 Views
Who are you, again? - 14/06/2011 05:07:04 AM 804 Views
Tsk. I need to be more memorable. - 14/06/2011 05:16:33 AM 1130 Views
Well, try to be more openminded. - 14/06/2011 05:22:52 AM 1033 Views
Fair enough. I do quite like Gaps. - 14/06/2011 05:31:05 AM 1028 Views
Why all this vitriol? - 14/06/2011 05:18:16 AM 992 Views
Book clubs? Bullshit! women shouldn't be reading at all!!! - 15/06/2011 01:28:41 AM 1012 Views
Re: Oh wow, nice. - 14/06/2011 12:25:53 PM 804 Views
Perhaps one day I'll get a Chinese husband. - 14/06/2011 04:41:59 AM 1104 Views
Spain, Norway, Japan? - 14/06/2011 04:38:43 AM 1062 Views
Norway is the only one that passes. - 14/06/2011 01:14:54 PM 905 Views
I really like the Netherlands - 14/06/2011 01:29:08 PM 977 Views
Re: I really like the Netherlands - 14/06/2011 04:51:11 PM 877 Views
Why did I pick that one? Because you completely ignore men's part in a culture that sexually - 14/06/2011 07:54:39 AM 1062 Views
Helene, you're also not an American woman. - 14/06/2011 01:03:23 PM 1071 Views
You're not American either. *NM* - 14/06/2011 02:26:34 PM 345 Views
I didn't ignore it at all. I just bracketed it. It's quite possible, you know. - 14/06/2011 08:49:03 PM 1047 Views
You have strange expectations and ideas of me. *NM* - 14/06/2011 08:52:09 PM 431 Views
Likewise. BFF? *NM* - 14/06/2011 09:08:53 PM 373 Views
Nice! /me high Fives Helene!! *NM* - 14/06/2011 02:32:27 AM 354 Views
Oh, but I can do any and all of these things! - 14/06/2011 12:06:41 AM 1047 Views
I said there were exceptions. - 14/06/2011 03:50:27 AM 914 Views
True. - 14/06/2011 09:03:46 PM 874 Views
hey! I really like your poem "name" - syllables knowing other lovers - excellent. - 15/06/2011 01:49:06 AM 849 Views
Thanks! *NM* - 15/06/2011 09:44:18 PM 494 Views
I agree. - 13/06/2011 01:23:51 PM 1011 Views
Obviously inside the bedroom. - 13/06/2011 05:17:31 PM 1095 Views
Inside the bedroom? Sure. I could agree. But you're not American anyway. - 13/06/2011 08:52:42 PM 969 Views
You're basically just saying that American attitudes toward sex results in repressed women - 13/06/2011 09:03:47 PM 1051 Views
Theoretically they can be "unrepressed". But why waste the time and effort? - 13/06/2011 10:06:52 PM 1107 Views
How can you tell it's because she cares, instead of because that's what's traditionally expected - 13/06/2011 10:48:12 PM 1025 Views
That's a good point! *NM* - 15/06/2011 04:49:11 AM 480 Views
The answer is that it doesn't matter. - 16/06/2011 05:35:47 PM 1097 Views
I agree that the answer doesn't matter - 16/06/2011 07:09:44 PM 788 Views
It's funny - 13/06/2011 02:51:03 PM 1174 Views
Well of course you can't see the faults of American women. You're American. - 13/06/2011 08:51:35 PM 1067 Views
I'm sure that American women, along with all other women on earth - 13/06/2011 09:00:33 PM 1090 Views
It's not my job to make a girl comfortable about her sexuality. - 13/06/2011 10:03:27 PM 981 Views
THIS *NM* - 13/06/2011 10:09:14 PM 461 Views
If the sex is all there is, then yes, makes sense. - 13/06/2011 10:18:15 PM 1072 Views
Who willingly goes into a relationship knowing the sex will be bad? - 14/06/2011 03:52:43 AM 986 Views
You and your friends? - 14/06/2011 05:46:53 AM 960 Views
And you don't think that the men in these relationships contributed to the current situation at all? - 14/06/2011 07:59:15 AM 777 Views
In this particular aspect, absolutely not. - 14/06/2011 02:19:33 PM 960 Views
Of course I consider that you might be right - 14/06/2011 03:59:50 PM 1077 Views
I'm not ignoring any complexities - 14/06/2011 05:00:04 PM 1027 Views
Loads of people, if that's compensated by other things? - 14/06/2011 08:38:45 PM 1132 Views
I would rather be in a good marriage with bad sex than the other way around *NM* - 14/06/2011 10:33:27 PM 541 Views
I suspect that you are in a good marriage with good sex. - 16/06/2011 01:55:29 AM 1054 Views
Of course it is your job as a sex partner to make your partner feel comfortable about being with you - 13/06/2011 10:50:52 PM 905 Views
THIS. *NM* - 13/06/2011 11:49:28 PM 435 Views
I was going to say the same. - 14/06/2011 12:11:18 AM 1096 Views
Like fucking Hell it is. - 14/06/2011 12:18:02 AM 867 Views
You're totally cracking me up in here. - 14/06/2011 12:30:39 AM 1002 Views
You think you're offending me? - 14/06/2011 01:10:56 AM 1003 Views
No. - 14/06/2011 08:01:45 PM 1032 Views
Have you ever been accused of date rape? - 14/06/2011 12:46:30 AM 823 Views
No. And that's an absurd question. - 14/06/2011 01:08:13 AM 899 Views
No, the point you were arguing was absurd. I just pointed out what you were arguing. - 14/06/2011 08:03:13 AM 1075 Views
Let's cut the sophistry - 14/06/2011 02:24:52 PM 1062 Views
What's the definition of prude anyway? - 14/06/2011 03:58:03 PM 935 Views
If that's what you wanted to say, it would have helped for you to be more explicit. - 14/06/2011 04:10:43 PM 995 Views
"Why do these women use sex as a manipulative tool?" - 14/06/2011 05:06:33 PM 1036 Views
It seems to me there is a very simple answer to that question. - 14/06/2011 05:26:09 PM 940 Views
I don't think it works at all. - 14/06/2011 05:48:48 PM 907 Views
Your anecdotal evidence suggests otherwise. - 14/06/2011 06:31:28 PM 1176 Views
I don't think so. - 15/06/2011 03:50:25 AM 928 Views
I agree with every single thing you just said. *NM* - 15/06/2011 05:03:05 AM 369 Views
Oddly enough, I do too - 15/06/2011 02:00:39 PM 1027 Views
I agree with Sareitha. Women do that because it (apears to) works for them, in the short term - 14/06/2011 08:28:11 PM 875 Views
I can't see that I would put up with that either - 14/06/2011 10:32:09 PM 962 Views
Right - 14/06/2011 10:59:10 PM 941 Views
mode was a typeo but I guess it still works - 14/06/2011 11:23:11 PM 1049 Views
A fairly self-aware American. With many female friends, even - 13/06/2011 11:59:34 PM 1044 Views
Yeah I don't buy that "most American girls are prudes" concept - 14/06/2011 04:10:37 PM 667 Views
A moment - 14/06/2011 05:01:05 PM 906 Views
Camilla, I'm trying to keep this at arm's length a bit. - 14/06/2011 05:42:18 PM 914 Views
But you started it. - 14/06/2011 08:43:47 PM 976 Views
I did start it, yes. - 16/06/2011 03:32:54 PM 948 Views
You should have quit before this. - 16/06/2011 03:46:01 PM 1027 Views
No, I shouldn't have. - 16/06/2011 04:03:21 PM 974 Views
The problem with your list is that it's performance-oriented. - 16/06/2011 10:45:22 PM 922 Views
Of course it's performance-oriented. - 16/06/2011 10:54:22 PM 874 Views
This really made me laugh - 16/06/2011 04:26:32 PM 947 Views
Re: I did start it, yes. - 16/06/2011 03:46:06 PM 845 Views
Yes, we do! - 16/06/2011 04:04:02 PM 1040 Views
Having now looked over the smileys - 16/06/2011 04:09:55 PM 1017 Views
See what I'm talking about? - 16/06/2011 07:09:10 PM 935 Views
That may have been the worst pun ever! *NM* - 17/06/2011 12:47:50 AM 473 Views
I try *NM* - 17/06/2011 09:57:32 AM 462 Views
Take is up the ass or you are a prude? - 16/06/2011 04:09:54 PM 1158 Views
You didn't read the list very well. - 16/06/2011 07:08:19 PM 978 Views
It appears I didn't read it very well. I apologize for that - 16/06/2011 10:16:02 PM 933 Views
No problems. - 16/06/2011 10:57:46 PM 867 Views
Re: The idea that If it hurts it's not being done right - Not neccessarily. - 17/06/2011 01:13:18 AM 973 Views
It just requires more preparation. - 17/06/2011 04:49:52 AM 1340 Views
I have to say, I actually find this list reasonable. - 16/06/2011 04:35:40 PM 948 Views
I agree - 16/06/2011 05:10:07 PM 866 Views
Exactly! It's the "nexus of activity" sort of idea. - 16/06/2011 07:18:33 PM 813 Views
If I weren't such a prude (3), I would post this list to facebook. - 16/06/2011 05:08:05 PM 1040 Views
In other words, you aren't a prude on that scale. - 16/06/2011 07:20:35 PM 843 Views
Eh - 16/06/2011 08:17:31 PM 1041 Views
You mixed up prudishness and sexual compatibility with you - 16/06/2011 05:21:31 PM 1056 Views
This. *NM* - 16/06/2011 06:18:41 PM 506 Views
No I didn't. - 16/06/2011 07:14:27 PM 953 Views
Calling my response a knee jerk reaction is just silly, and in itself, a knee jerk response. - 16/06/2011 07:38:28 PM 1163 Views
Okay. I'm going to just stop replying. - 16/06/2011 08:28:02 PM 754 Views
Your world view is just too self referential to be - 16/06/2011 08:36:39 PM 973 Views
As is yours. *NM* - 16/06/2011 08:44:10 PM 351 Views
That makes no sense. You have the narrower view. *NM* - 16/06/2011 09:07:37 PM 460 Views
So you say. *NM* - 16/06/2011 09:09:21 PM 448 Views
Question - 16/06/2011 07:42:37 PM 958 Views
Ha Ha, who cares about the guy? It is only female sexuality that is on trial. - 16/06/2011 08:06:33 PM 888 Views
That is an incorrect assumption. - 16/06/2011 08:30:08 PM 923 Views
Awww you didn't take my bait! - 16/06/2011 08:44:16 PM 843 Views
There's very little I haven't been willing to do - 16/06/2011 08:52:31 PM 957 Views
Hehehe, But *I* recall it! - 16/06/2011 09:22:40 PM 991 Views
Wait, I think I know what you're talking about. - 16/06/2011 09:27:20 PM 946 Views
Damn, I was going to guess "in a coffin". - 16/06/2011 09:31:36 PM 1151 Views
Seriously? - 16/06/2011 09:50:20 PM 972 Views
The girl was never a girlfriend or a sexual partner. - 16/06/2011 11:06:38 PM 952 Views
I'm reminded of an ex of mine - 16/06/2011 08:32:34 PM 767 Views
That's really awful. - 16/06/2011 09:16:33 PM 1050 Views
Of course. - 16/06/2011 08:29:11 PM 809 Views
Fair enough *NM* - 17/06/2011 07:20:38 PM 461 Views
THIS!! LISTEN!! the woman is * lightbulb* speaking from a woman's perspective. - 14/06/2011 02:52:26 AM 1060 Views
Your way out of line - 14/06/2011 02:55:46 AM 845 Views
Wondering why we're still single, are we? Try a minimum of politeness first. - 14/06/2011 03:21:15 AM 808 Views
What B/c i sank you YOUR level? Piss Off. AS if I give 2 shits what you think about me. - 16/06/2011 02:19:04 AM 1142 Views
I read this. - 16/06/2011 03:40:51 AM 1031 Views
The name-calling is uncalled for, Rebecca - 16/06/2011 11:10:04 AM 1002 Views
Given the vehemence of your response, you do care. - 16/06/2011 03:19:42 PM 1035 Views
I appreciate the support, - 14/06/2011 10:37:20 PM 1008 Views
Your journal entry is revealing. You sound bitter and hurt. I hope you find the healing you need. - 15/06/2011 01:40:23 AM 1011 Views
You know what? not called for. *NM* - 15/06/2011 02:05:14 PM 332 Views
Why not? - 15/06/2011 11:59:36 PM 912 Views
The first portion of what you said, isn't yours to say. - 16/06/2011 03:43:57 PM 733 Views
I'm with Anastasia on this. - 16/06/2011 06:39:56 PM 1068 Views
Re: It's funny - 14/06/2011 03:50:13 AM 1034 Views
Re: It's funny - 14/06/2011 10:28:32 PM 1082 Views
On a completely unrelated note - 14/06/2011 11:03:58 PM 950 Views
Re: On a completely unrelated note - 14/06/2011 11:14:18 PM 986 Views
Bummer *NM* - 14/06/2011 11:20:24 PM 440 Views
TMJ is right. - 15/06/2011 02:11:57 PM 1019 Views
Re: TMJ is right. - 16/06/2011 12:22:10 AM 1080 Views
Yes. - 16/06/2011 03:41:05 PM 891 Views
Re: Yes. - 17/06/2011 01:51:11 AM 828 Views
Gee thanks. - 17/06/2011 05:04:37 AM 1268 Views
Didn't suit you. - 18/06/2011 12:58:53 AM 1030 Views
On a totally unrelated note... - 15/06/2011 01:43:23 AM 973 Views
Excuse me while I go hit something. A journalism major perhaps. *NM* - 12/06/2011 09:09:26 PM 448 Views
Stunning rebuttal!!! *NM* - 12/06/2011 10:07:39 PM 338 Views
Theres nothing there I really need to refute.... - 13/06/2011 01:20:43 AM 890 Views
Well, thanks for contributing nothing to the discussion. *NM* - 13/06/2011 04:41:56 AM 345 Views
Is there a reason you feel the need to jump up my ass? *NM* - 13/06/2011 05:16:53 AM 497 Views
Your winning personality? - 13/06/2011 03:45:09 PM 988 Views
I'd say 'endearing' is the proper term. - 13/06/2011 10:43:01 PM 916 Views
Nice name new. - 15/06/2011 01:44:25 AM 943 Views
Wow. Interesting. *NM* - 13/06/2011 07:04:08 AM 428 Views
Giving up porn (a male perspective) - 13/06/2011 04:29:52 PM 1038 Views
Thanks for sharing. ^_^ *NM* - 13/06/2011 09:05:51 PM 490 Views
Re: It's a sexy topic, but all these generalizations are becoming wet blankets. - 14/06/2011 02:13:31 AM 1026 Views
I think you are spot on with the seal theory. - 14/06/2011 05:16:59 PM 1080 Views
[something less snarky] - 14/06/2011 10:17:18 PM 1113 Views
Re: What? - 15/06/2011 12:01:36 AM 1076 Views
Re: What? - 15/06/2011 12:20:56 AM 1027 Views
Re: How come your 1st edit is not at all what was originally posted? - 15/06/2011 03:06:02 AM 1049 Views
About time to reevaluate Tom's claims, I think, eh? *NM* - 15/06/2011 03:59:31 AM 465 Views
my turn: what? - 15/06/2011 04:12:51 AM 1087 Views
Wow, well speaking as a prude... - 14/06/2011 03:36:23 AM 1059 Views
Funny how so many fault lines rupture in the comments to posts like this - 14/06/2011 04:23:23 AM 1149 Views
To quote Cat Valente: - 14/06/2011 04:37:39 AM 870 Views
It is a two-way street, unfortunately - 14/06/2011 04:40:58 AM 988 Views
so the problem is southern women are just not good enough for you? - 14/06/2011 01:51:30 PM 971 Views
No, more like not similar enough - 14/06/2011 04:13:52 PM 996 Views
Some people aren't cut out to be in a relationship - 14/06/2011 04:25:09 PM 1013 Views
True - 14/06/2011 04:56:05 PM 837 Views
As someone who has never lived under the same roof more than five consecutive years - 14/06/2011 06:06:10 PM 1089 Views
Job. Always a job matter. - 14/06/2011 11:22:33 PM 1134 Views
Try south Texas, you may not notice you are not in South America - 15/06/2011 02:44:21 AM 926 Views
Ha! I used to live in the metro Miami area, so I know what you mean - 15/06/2011 03:20:41 AM 976 Views
sweet jesus you are crazy - 15/06/2011 04:38:28 AM 829 Views
Maybe, but it certainly drains me of being involved much elsewhere - 15/06/2011 05:29:21 AM 1055 Views
Why all this vitriol? - 14/06/2011 05:19:47 AM 960 Views
It started there here: - 14/06/2011 01:06:32 PM 1027 Views
Tom made an untenable comment - 14/06/2011 01:21:06 PM 934 Views
Book clubs are scary places - 14/06/2011 05:03:03 PM 752 Views
Chocolate, wine, books. Also tea? - 14/06/2011 09:00:06 PM 1059 Views
Maybe without the wine? - 15/06/2011 05:06:53 AM 938 Views
I don't feel particularly vitriolic. - 14/06/2011 10:18:44 PM 958 Views
I didn't mean you... - 15/06/2011 05:24:56 AM 953 Views
We haven't had one of these in a while! - 14/06/2011 06:36:18 AM 998 Views
Agreed. I laughed, I cried, it was touching. *NM* - 14/06/2011 08:49:40 AM 336 Views
This post got more abused than a nasty Japanese bukkake! Lol. *NM* - 15/06/2011 10:07:04 AM 527 Views
I started to read this but got bored and looked at porn. - 14/06/2011 03:15:28 PM 1014 Views
Re: I started to read this but got bored and looked at porn. - 14/06/2011 03:27:51 PM 1070 Views
Oh yeah. - 14/06/2011 03:31:42 PM 1048 Views
- 14/06/2011 08:48:55 PM 1041 Views
I think I've read pretty much all of it. I think it's better than porn. Well, bad porn. - 14/06/2011 11:01:20 PM 1019 Views
that was funny *NM* - 15/06/2011 02:42:13 AM 345 Views
Bad porn is the worst! - 15/06/2011 02:13:59 PM 872 Views
You know what Tom, it occurs to me that this is very American thinking. - 15/06/2011 03:07:00 AM 948 Views
Actually, my Russian guy friends tend to be more vehement than I am on this point. - 15/06/2011 05:12:51 AM 1274 Views
Huh, could it be because most Russians are atheist? - 15/06/2011 05:36:47 AM 1058 Views
That could be a major part of it - 16/06/2011 09:06:21 PM 910 Views
Ah, you've seen EuroTrip, too. *NM* - 17/06/2011 01:52:27 AM 452 Views

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