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Why all this vitriol? Vivien Send a noteboard - 14/06/2011 05:19:47 AM
If you don't like the women on this side of the Atlantic then don't date/marry them. Problem solved. Everyone's happy. And the prudes can hook up with each other. But wait- is it only women that are prudes? Then the men can hook up with each other and the women will attend book clubs.





I met the woman at a Broadway show, but the night’s best piece of acting, I’d say, came from me, back at her East Village apartment, after we’d been having sex for about 25 minutes, with Neil Young wailing the song “Comes a Time” from the laptop on her bedside table. The dried-out condom had a full-bodied choke hold on me, but I’d already stopped twice to put on a fresh one, and I knew, as I kept earnestly pumping away, that one more condom wouldn’t make the necessary difference. Had I just given up, things might have played out the way they often did, with shades of confused disappointment and inadequacy on the part of the woman and mumbled apologies and awkward shame from me. But that night, ingenuity struck—unable to actually get off, I found myself flying a fresh route: I faked it.

Why would I, a healthy guy in his thirties, need to fake an orgasm? It was mystifying. I wasn’t on antidepressants, which I’d heard could decrease sensation. I got plenty of exercise. It didn’t seem to matter which woman I was with, or what kind of condom we used, or whether I’d downed one glass of whiskey or ten, or if we listened to Neil Young or Al Green, as I learned through trial and error (mostly error). Over the course of months, I picked a dozen suspects out of the lineup and gradually cleared each one. Except, perhaps, the most obvious.

“Pornography? It’s a new synaptic pathway.” This is what John Mayer said in a candid interview with Playboy. “You wake up in the morning, open a thumbnail page, and it leads to a Pandora’s box of visuals,” he continued. “There have probably been days when I saw 300 vaginas before I got out of bed.”

Porn’s allure and ubiquity isn’t exactly titillating news. The question that still remains, however, is how this tsunami of porn is affecting the libido of the American male or, more selfishly, mine. First I came across a post on Sanjay Gupta’s blog by Ian Kerner, a sexuality counselor, who wrote that he noticed a distinct rise in the number of men approaching him with concerns about delayed ejaculation. Kerner went on to attribute much of the problem to a “rapid proliferation of Internet porn” which leads to “over-masturbation,” something I’m very familiar with. Then I read about a University of Kansas study that found that 25 percent of college-age men said they’d faked orgasms, which, I’ll admit, was oddly comforting to hear. But it wasn’t until I interviewed dozens of men with varying porn-watching habits (and a few very open-minded women) that some unexpected themes began to emerge. Porn is not only shaping men’s physical and emotional interest in sex on a very fundamental neurological level, but it’s also having a series of unexpected ripple effects—namely on women.

For decades, hand-wringers have warned of a porn epidemic that would tear the nation’s moral fabric asunder. But if online porn has spread a sickness, it’s one that’s less like Ebola and more like a midwinter cold. The initial symptom for a lot of guys who frequently find themselves bookmarking their favorite illicit clips appears to be a waning desire for their partners. Jonas*, a 34-year-old ad exec, told me, “I get on SpankWire or X Videos—you could carve ice sculptures with my dick. I take a girl home from the bar, though, and I’ll be up for a minute while she’s going down on me, but once I put a condom on and we start going at it, it’s like the Challenger exploded—all the flags are at half-mast.”

Then there’s Stefan, a 43-year-old composer, who has no problem getting aroused when he has sex with his wife. “In order to come, though, I’ve got to resort to playing scenes in my head that I’ve seen while viewing porn. Something is lost there. I’m no longer with my wife; I’m inside my own head.”

As John Mayer told Playboy, “How could you be constantly synthesizing an orgasm based on dozens of shots? You’re looking for the one photo out of 100 you swear is going to be the one you finish to, and you still don’t finish … How does that not affect the psychology of having a relationship with somebody? It’s got to.” Most of the men I interviewed admitted having a similar habit of jumping quickly from porn clip to porn clip (which explains the rise and popularity of “cumshot” montages and other rapidly edited compilations). Kerner went so far as to coin the term “sexual attention deficit disorder.” For a lot of guys, switching gears from porn’s fireworks and whiz-bangs to the comparatively mundane calm of ordinary sex is like leaving halfway through an Imax 3-D movie to check out a flipbook.

“I used to race home to have sex with my wife,” says Perry, a 41-year-old lawyer. “Now I leave work a half-hour early so I can get home before she does and masturbate to porn.” Throughout the course of our conversation, Perry insists that he’s still attracted to his wife of twelve years. Still, he says, she can’t quite measure up to the porn stars he views online. “Not to be mean, but they’re younger, hotter, and wilder in the sack than my wife,” he says. “Me and her, we still ‘do it’ and everything, but instead of every day, it’s maybe once a week. It’s like I’ve got this ‘other woman’ … and the ‘other woman’ is porn.”

Ron, 27, an architecture student, met his girlfriend when they were both undergrads. She goes to school in another city, and Ron says that for the past couple of years, he’s had weekly “dates” with his favorite porn stars, which he looks forward to all day and even showers and shaves for, as though preparing for a live-action rendezvous. “Mondays are for Gia Jordan,” he says. “Tuesdays for Sasha Grey.” Wednesdays he has a reprieve—a Portuguese night class. “I always look forward to Thursdays the most—Kasey Kox,” he says. “Then, on the weekends, I hang out with my girlfriend.” Occasionally, when he returns to his apartment on Sundays, Ron explains, he roams the web looking for candidates to spend time with on Wednesday nights in case he has leftover energy after his language class. “I don’t like to believe that porn is replacing anything I have with my girlfriend,” he says, “but I’ve always loved sex, and I’ve always had a lot of it, so I really had to stop and think about it when she asked me recently why she always has to be the one to initiate things. And she was right; I guess I’ve been fading from her. It’s like all that time with these porn stars was subduing any physical desire for my girlfriend. And, in some weird way, my emotional need for her, too.”

Is it possible that porn is causing men to detach from their partners in more profound ways? Though porn research is the subject of much debate and barb-flinging (with religious groups seizing on any study to prove that porn and masturbation are wrong), scientists speculate that a dopamine-oxytocin combo is released in the brain during orgasm, acting as a “biochemical love potion,” as behavioral therapist Andrea Kuszewski calls it. It’s the reason after having sex with someone, you’re probably more inclined to form an emotional attachment. But you don’t have to actually have sex in order to get those neurotransmitters firing. When you watch porn, “you’re bonding with it,” Kuszewski says. “And those chemicals make you want to keep coming back to have that feeling.” Which allows men not only to get off on porn but to potentially develop a neurological attachment to it. They can, in essence, date porn.

And as tripod-in-the-corner porn evolves into a high-def wonderland, our grasp on whether we’re watching sex or actually having sex may, with the help of oxytocin, loosen. Many of the men I interviewed spoke of the charge they get from watching their favorite porn actresses. But they also had a tendency to describe the act of watching porn as though it were a real sex act they had participated in—making their emotional investment in porn all the more concrete. “I love when Kasey [Kox] is fully clothed and smiling at me from her bed, or I’m doing her from behind,” says Ron, the architecture student. “I get one glimpse of Kasey and I’m so turned on. I get dizzy.”

All of which raises an interesting question: How does having sometimes flaccid, sometimes faked, oftentimes dizzied sex impact the partners on the receiving end? Sadie, 29, a real-estate agent in Boston, quotes performance artist Nicole Blackman to make her point: “ ‘There is no glory in trying to make love to men who only know how to fuck—man after man after man after man raised on porn.’ There have been times in the past,” Sadie continues, “when I would be with someone and thinking, Jesus fucking Christ, what the fuck kind of stupid porn have you been watching? Did you just smack my kitty? Dumbass!”

“There’s a failure to distinguish between porn reality and reality reality,” says Monika, 27. “One guy kept shouting at me, ‘Ride the cock, ride the cock!’ I was laughing so hard we had to stop.”

As a result of the blending of reality and fantasy, some women have chosen to willingly play along by a new set of rules in order to keep their men interested: They’re intentionally impersonating porn stars. Sadie, the real-estate agent, says, “A lot of guys have come to expect P.S.E. [the “Porn-Star Experience”] as a common thing—snatches waxed bald, access to every hole—and plenty of women are more than happy to provide. A few might enjoy it, but for most it’s harrowing. I think there’s a fear that if they can’t make it happen, their boyfriend will retreat online.”

Monty, 31, an actor from Queens, who between shooting scenes spends about an hour a day masturbating to online porn, says he’s noticed the shift. “I was with a girl who seemed to be in an arms race with porn,” he says. “She had this imaginary Soviet Union she kept trying to out-fuck.”

“Women are turning up the dial,” says Evan, also 31. “I’m a pleaser. I get off on a woman’s arousal. But I’ve noticed that women are getting a lot more vocal now. Either I’m doing something I’m not aware of, or women are beginning to mimic what happens in porn. Honestly, it’s kind of weird. I’m not sure if I like it.”

Tony, 48, a web designer in St. Paul, who separated from his wife a few years ago after twenty years of marriage, echoes the thought. “I’ve always thought it’s really hot when women in porn movies say dirty stuff,” he says. “Usually, they’re just literally narrating the shit that’s happening, giving the play-by-play: ‘You’re fucking me! Your dick’s in my ass! I’m sucking your cock right now!’ For whatever reason, that’s what does it for me. But recently a woman I was with started saying all that stuff, and it just kind of spooked me. She seemed slightly nuts.”

And so a conundrum emerges. Men, oversaturated by porn, secretly hunger for the variety that porn offers. Women, noticing a decline in their partners’ libidos, try to reenact the kinds of scenes that men watch on their computer screens. Men, as a result, get really freaked out. They don’t want their real women and their fantasy women to inhabit the same body. Or, as Ron analogizes: “Remember Ghostbusters? How in love Bill Murray was with Dana, the Sigourney Weaver character? He feels lucky to even get her to agree to a date with him, but then when he shows up at her door, she’s possessed by demons, floating four feet above her bed, begging him to fuck her brains out. And he’s completely rattled by it and can’t get out of there fast enough. Well, that’s what it’s like when your girlfriend suddenly starts acting like a porn queen. You’re like, ‘Baby, where’d you go? I just want my girlfriend back.’ ”

Like any thorough researcher, I decided to investigate a theory. I had heard about something called the National Day of Unplugging, sponsored by the New York–based Jewish group Reboot, which encourages people to take a one-day vacation from their tech. But I chose to unplug in my own way: by refusing to visit the usual series of tawdry websites I frequent before bedtime. Now, I’m certainly not trying to indict porn, or to conclude that it has no place in men’s lives, whether they are alone or in company. And I’ll concede that some couples still find it to be something of a turn-on. But realigning one’s relationship to it might just improve one’s actual relationships—especially if you’re often finding yourself in the bedroom, staring into the eyes of a very confused partner. So I did some realigning.

I went without porn for a day. Then I tried it for two. Then three. On the fourth day, I had the fortune of having sex with a woman. And nothing was faked, although I can only speak for myself.

OK, except for the guy "Ron" being a total creep the article is pretty interesting. I have seen this effect, heck I've even left an encounter or two thinking to myself, "This wasn't really that good, not what I expected." and yes, in both experiences, I faked it to just kind of wrap things up. I think there is a case to be made that the influx of massive amounts of pornographic exposure probably is not a good thing overall for the libido of men, or women for that matter. Maybe thinking about it every man would be well advised to turn the monitor off once and awhile and abstain from the ass and titties. .
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He’s Just Not That Into Anyone (an article about watching porn and men's changing libidos). - 11/06/2011 10:52:10 PM 3156 Views
I disagree with the whole last third or fourth of the article. - 12/06/2011 02:01:40 AM 940 Views
Re: I disagree with the whole last third or fourth of the article. - 12/06/2011 08:49:39 PM 1220 Views
A lot of guys who get hooked on porn don't know how to approach women - 12/06/2011 10:55:17 PM 1158 Views
Funny - 13/06/2011 01:22:28 AM 1131 Views
You obviously never had a fulfilling long term sexual relationship with a woman. - 13/06/2011 10:43:23 AM 900 Views
Oh My - 13/06/2011 03:29:34 PM 948 Views
*giggle* - 13/06/2011 03:46:28 PM 971 Views
What did I do to put a bee in your bonnet? *NM* - 13/06/2011 06:23:01 PM 429 Views
Bee? - 13/06/2011 06:24:35 PM 935 Views
Oh, I tend to be loving and appreciative - 13/06/2011 05:08:56 PM 894 Views
That isnt fair, Helene *NM* - 13/06/2011 06:22:25 PM 473 Views
What isn't fair? - 13/06/2011 08:07:08 PM 1100 Views
I'm not looking for someone to fix, but the not fair bit I was refering to was little irony dig *NM* - 13/06/2011 10:10:11 PM 495 Views
You don't need to be broken to enjoy being appreciated - 13/06/2011 10:17:01 PM 900 Views
No, Helene, You repeatedly attempt to sidetrack discussion with attacks against my person - 13/06/2011 10:20:01 PM 1033 Views
But it makes me feel good - 13/06/2011 10:45:07 PM 908 Views
I'm not a hedonist - 13/06/2011 10:57:25 PM 1065 Views
So indignant! - 13/06/2011 11:53:41 PM 1064 Views
I don't believe that at all. - 13/06/2011 04:48:26 AM 1049 Views
Entirely agree *NM* - 13/06/2011 04:33:04 PM 518 Views
Showing appreciation is a losing strategy. - 13/06/2011 04:55:09 AM 1009 Views
So you don't know how to open a woman up sexually - 13/06/2011 10:51:17 AM 1016 Views
Oh how clever of you! - 13/06/2011 09:59:01 PM 1103 Views
Not to gang up on you or anything, but... - 13/06/2011 10:15:57 PM 1029 Views
It's that the prudishness is indicative of a more general sense of entitlement and manipulativeness. - 13/06/2011 11:02:20 PM 1107 Views
Yes. And "passive-aggressive behavior" is another one I'd add. *NM* - 13/06/2011 11:18:40 PM 379 Views
So far in this debate, you've only displayed your feelings of entitlement - 14/06/2011 12:05:16 AM 910 Views
Guys have their own problems, but the conversation is revolving around women at the moment. *NM* *NM* - 14/06/2011 01:23:20 AM 488 Views
The conversation did start being about MEN's problems. - 14/06/2011 03:36:36 AM 976 Views
Be good, Ana. - 14/06/2011 03:40:12 AM 757 Views
You may be mistaken. - 14/06/2011 03:54:28 AM 987 Views
Thats unfortuanate, Ana - 14/06/2011 03:58:50 AM 884 Views
I am introspecting, yes. - 14/06/2011 04:02:32 AM 888 Views
No, I wasnt attempting to do so - 14/06/2011 04:09:29 AM 1046 Views
Re: You may be mistaken. - 15/06/2011 01:21:16 AM 1037 Views
The only reason the conversation is revolving around women is because Tom laid all the blame at - 14/06/2011 07:35:34 AM 1071 Views
Let's be clear: I was speaking about American women *NM* - 14/06/2011 02:10:10 PM 385 Views
Oh, that part is quite clear. *NM* - 14/06/2011 08:25:08 PM 504 Views
Wow.. all the misogynists came out to play - 13/06/2011 11:57:05 PM 1079 Views
I'm glad you're in here. - 14/06/2011 12:04:03 AM 1029 Views
Seconded *NM* - 14/06/2011 04:46:38 PM 451 Views
I don't see a lot of misogyny. - 14/06/2011 12:59:06 AM 846 Views
You are blind to misogyny because you lack awareness in that area - 14/06/2011 07:38:48 AM 910 Views
Okay, so I'm a date rapist and a misogynist...real classy - 14/06/2011 02:11:40 PM 845 Views
I neither called you a date rapist nor a misogynist - 14/06/2011 03:10:46 PM 882 Views
Why misogynist? Why not Anti-American? - 14/06/2011 01:32:17 AM 1402 Views
So, which women are better than American women? - 14/06/2011 03:38:38 AM 1050 Views
Re: Haha - 14/06/2011 04:18:46 AM 949 Views
You seem very intent on coming off as the smartest guy in the room. - 14/06/2011 04:40:26 AM 1047 Views
I think that's an unfair characterization of the RP board - 14/06/2011 04:58:29 AM 931 Views
Ha! I'm just fucking around. - 14/06/2011 05:14:20 AM 970 Views
Re: Ha! I'm just fucking around. - 14/06/2011 05:42:37 AM 794 Views
Who are you, again? - 14/06/2011 05:07:04 AM 783 Views
Tsk. I need to be more memorable. - 14/06/2011 05:16:33 AM 1116 Views
Well, try to be more openminded. - 14/06/2011 05:22:52 AM 1012 Views
Fair enough. I do quite like Gaps. - 14/06/2011 05:31:05 AM 1009 Views
Why all this vitriol? - 14/06/2011 05:18:16 AM 975 Views
Book clubs? Bullshit! women shouldn't be reading at all!!! - 15/06/2011 01:28:41 AM 992 Views
Re: Oh wow, nice. - 14/06/2011 12:25:53 PM 785 Views
Perhaps one day I'll get a Chinese husband. - 14/06/2011 04:41:59 AM 1088 Views
Spain, Norway, Japan? - 14/06/2011 04:38:43 AM 1042 Views
Norway is the only one that passes. - 14/06/2011 01:14:54 PM 888 Views
I really like the Netherlands - 14/06/2011 01:29:08 PM 957 Views
Re: I really like the Netherlands - 14/06/2011 04:51:11 PM 859 Views
Why did I pick that one? Because you completely ignore men's part in a culture that sexually - 14/06/2011 07:54:39 AM 1044 Views
Helene, you're also not an American woman. - 14/06/2011 01:03:23 PM 1053 Views
You're not American either. *NM* - 14/06/2011 02:26:34 PM 339 Views
I didn't ignore it at all. I just bracketed it. It's quite possible, you know. - 14/06/2011 08:49:03 PM 1030 Views
You have strange expectations and ideas of me. *NM* - 14/06/2011 08:52:09 PM 425 Views
Likewise. BFF? *NM* - 14/06/2011 09:08:53 PM 368 Views
Nice! /me high Fives Helene!! *NM* - 14/06/2011 02:32:27 AM 348 Views
Oh, but I can do any and all of these things! - 14/06/2011 12:06:41 AM 1034 Views
I said there were exceptions. - 14/06/2011 03:50:27 AM 894 Views
True. - 14/06/2011 09:03:46 PM 863 Views
hey! I really like your poem "name" - syllables knowing other lovers - excellent. - 15/06/2011 01:49:06 AM 830 Views
Thanks! *NM* - 15/06/2011 09:44:18 PM 489 Views
I agree. - 13/06/2011 01:23:51 PM 996 Views
Obviously inside the bedroom. - 13/06/2011 05:17:31 PM 1079 Views
Inside the bedroom? Sure. I could agree. But you're not American anyway. - 13/06/2011 08:52:42 PM 954 Views
You're basically just saying that American attitudes toward sex results in repressed women - 13/06/2011 09:03:47 PM 1033 Views
Theoretically they can be "unrepressed". But why waste the time and effort? - 13/06/2011 10:06:52 PM 1090 Views
How can you tell it's because she cares, instead of because that's what's traditionally expected - 13/06/2011 10:48:12 PM 1006 Views
That's a good point! *NM* - 15/06/2011 04:49:11 AM 472 Views
The answer is that it doesn't matter. - 16/06/2011 05:35:47 PM 1079 Views
I agree that the answer doesn't matter - 16/06/2011 07:09:44 PM 769 Views
It's funny - 13/06/2011 02:51:03 PM 1155 Views
Well of course you can't see the faults of American women. You're American. - 13/06/2011 08:51:35 PM 1051 Views
I'm sure that American women, along with all other women on earth - 13/06/2011 09:00:33 PM 1071 Views
It's not my job to make a girl comfortable about her sexuality. - 13/06/2011 10:03:27 PM 963 Views
THIS *NM* - 13/06/2011 10:09:14 PM 454 Views
If the sex is all there is, then yes, makes sense. - 13/06/2011 10:18:15 PM 1052 Views
Who willingly goes into a relationship knowing the sex will be bad? - 14/06/2011 03:52:43 AM 960 Views
You and your friends? - 14/06/2011 05:46:53 AM 940 Views
And you don't think that the men in these relationships contributed to the current situation at all? - 14/06/2011 07:59:15 AM 755 Views
In this particular aspect, absolutely not. - 14/06/2011 02:19:33 PM 944 Views
Of course I consider that you might be right - 14/06/2011 03:59:50 PM 1059 Views
I'm not ignoring any complexities - 14/06/2011 05:00:04 PM 1007 Views
Loads of people, if that's compensated by other things? - 14/06/2011 08:38:45 PM 1113 Views
I would rather be in a good marriage with bad sex than the other way around *NM* - 14/06/2011 10:33:27 PM 534 Views
I suspect that you are in a good marriage with good sex. - 16/06/2011 01:55:29 AM 1032 Views
Of course it is your job as a sex partner to make your partner feel comfortable about being with you - 13/06/2011 10:50:52 PM 892 Views
THIS. *NM* - 13/06/2011 11:49:28 PM 432 Views
I was going to say the same. - 14/06/2011 12:11:18 AM 1079 Views
Like fucking Hell it is. - 14/06/2011 12:18:02 AM 846 Views
You're totally cracking me up in here. - 14/06/2011 12:30:39 AM 981 Views
You think you're offending me? - 14/06/2011 01:10:56 AM 987 Views
No. - 14/06/2011 08:01:45 PM 1016 Views
Have you ever been accused of date rape? - 14/06/2011 12:46:30 AM 809 Views
No. And that's an absurd question. - 14/06/2011 01:08:13 AM 880 Views
No, the point you were arguing was absurd. I just pointed out what you were arguing. - 14/06/2011 08:03:13 AM 1054 Views
Let's cut the sophistry - 14/06/2011 02:24:52 PM 1043 Views
What's the definition of prude anyway? - 14/06/2011 03:58:03 PM 918 Views
If that's what you wanted to say, it would have helped for you to be more explicit. - 14/06/2011 04:10:43 PM 976 Views
"Why do these women use sex as a manipulative tool?" - 14/06/2011 05:06:33 PM 1017 Views
It seems to me there is a very simple answer to that question. - 14/06/2011 05:26:09 PM 920 Views
I don't think it works at all. - 14/06/2011 05:48:48 PM 890 Views
Your anecdotal evidence suggests otherwise. - 14/06/2011 06:31:28 PM 1159 Views
I don't think so. - 15/06/2011 03:50:25 AM 909 Views
I agree with every single thing you just said. *NM* - 15/06/2011 05:03:05 AM 362 Views
Oddly enough, I do too - 15/06/2011 02:00:39 PM 1008 Views
I agree with Sareitha. Women do that because it (apears to) works for them, in the short term - 14/06/2011 08:28:11 PM 857 Views
I can't see that I would put up with that either - 14/06/2011 10:32:09 PM 942 Views
Right - 14/06/2011 10:59:10 PM 927 Views
mode was a typeo but I guess it still works - 14/06/2011 11:23:11 PM 1033 Views
A fairly self-aware American. With many female friends, even - 13/06/2011 11:59:34 PM 1029 Views
Yeah I don't buy that "most American girls are prudes" concept - 14/06/2011 04:10:37 PM 647 Views
A moment - 14/06/2011 05:01:05 PM 888 Views
Camilla, I'm trying to keep this at arm's length a bit. - 14/06/2011 05:42:18 PM 892 Views
But you started it. - 14/06/2011 08:43:47 PM 962 Views
I did start it, yes. - 16/06/2011 03:32:54 PM 933 Views
You should have quit before this. - 16/06/2011 03:46:01 PM 1012 Views
No, I shouldn't have. - 16/06/2011 04:03:21 PM 952 Views
The problem with your list is that it's performance-oriented. - 16/06/2011 10:45:22 PM 910 Views
Of course it's performance-oriented. - 16/06/2011 10:54:22 PM 854 Views
This really made me laugh - 16/06/2011 04:26:32 PM 926 Views
Re: I did start it, yes. - 16/06/2011 03:46:06 PM 827 Views
Yes, we do! - 16/06/2011 04:04:02 PM 1020 Views
Having now looked over the smileys - 16/06/2011 04:09:55 PM 996 Views
See what I'm talking about? - 16/06/2011 07:09:10 PM 918 Views
That may have been the worst pun ever! *NM* - 17/06/2011 12:47:50 AM 466 Views
I try *NM* - 17/06/2011 09:57:32 AM 454 Views
Take is up the ass or you are a prude? - 16/06/2011 04:09:54 PM 1139 Views
You didn't read the list very well. - 16/06/2011 07:08:19 PM 958 Views
It appears I didn't read it very well. I apologize for that - 16/06/2011 10:16:02 PM 916 Views
No problems. - 16/06/2011 10:57:46 PM 855 Views
Re: The idea that If it hurts it's not being done right - Not neccessarily. - 17/06/2011 01:13:18 AM 963 Views
It just requires more preparation. - 17/06/2011 04:49:52 AM 1324 Views
I have to say, I actually find this list reasonable. - 16/06/2011 04:35:40 PM 931 Views
I agree - 16/06/2011 05:10:07 PM 853 Views
Exactly! It's the "nexus of activity" sort of idea. - 16/06/2011 07:18:33 PM 795 Views
If I weren't such a prude (3), I would post this list to facebook. - 16/06/2011 05:08:05 PM 1021 Views
In other words, you aren't a prude on that scale. - 16/06/2011 07:20:35 PM 826 Views
Eh - 16/06/2011 08:17:31 PM 1028 Views
You mixed up prudishness and sexual compatibility with you - 16/06/2011 05:21:31 PM 1036 Views
This. *NM* - 16/06/2011 06:18:41 PM 501 Views
No I didn't. - 16/06/2011 07:14:27 PM 938 Views
Calling my response a knee jerk reaction is just silly, and in itself, a knee jerk response. - 16/06/2011 07:38:28 PM 1141 Views
Okay. I'm going to just stop replying. - 16/06/2011 08:28:02 PM 737 Views
Your world view is just too self referential to be - 16/06/2011 08:36:39 PM 956 Views
As is yours. *NM* - 16/06/2011 08:44:10 PM 344 Views
That makes no sense. You have the narrower view. *NM* - 16/06/2011 09:07:37 PM 454 Views
So you say. *NM* - 16/06/2011 09:09:21 PM 441 Views
Question - 16/06/2011 07:42:37 PM 945 Views
Ha Ha, who cares about the guy? It is only female sexuality that is on trial. - 16/06/2011 08:06:33 PM 872 Views
That is an incorrect assumption. - 16/06/2011 08:30:08 PM 897 Views
Awww you didn't take my bait! - 16/06/2011 08:44:16 PM 824 Views
There's very little I haven't been willing to do - 16/06/2011 08:52:31 PM 933 Views
Hehehe, But *I* recall it! - 16/06/2011 09:22:40 PM 973 Views
Wait, I think I know what you're talking about. - 16/06/2011 09:27:20 PM 929 Views
Damn, I was going to guess "in a coffin". - 16/06/2011 09:31:36 PM 1131 Views
Seriously? - 16/06/2011 09:50:20 PM 949 Views
The girl was never a girlfriend or a sexual partner. - 16/06/2011 11:06:38 PM 931 Views
I'm reminded of an ex of mine - 16/06/2011 08:32:34 PM 750 Views
That's really awful. - 16/06/2011 09:16:33 PM 1031 Views
Of course. - 16/06/2011 08:29:11 PM 789 Views
Fair enough *NM* - 17/06/2011 07:20:38 PM 454 Views
THIS!! LISTEN!! the woman is * lightbulb* speaking from a woman's perspective. - 14/06/2011 02:52:26 AM 1045 Views
Your way out of line - 14/06/2011 02:55:46 AM 832 Views
Wondering why we're still single, are we? Try a minimum of politeness first. - 14/06/2011 03:21:15 AM 792 Views
What B/c i sank you YOUR level? Piss Off. AS if I give 2 shits what you think about me. - 16/06/2011 02:19:04 AM 1122 Views
I read this. - 16/06/2011 03:40:51 AM 1012 Views
The name-calling is uncalled for, Rebecca - 16/06/2011 11:10:04 AM 986 Views
Given the vehemence of your response, you do care. - 16/06/2011 03:19:42 PM 1017 Views
I appreciate the support, - 14/06/2011 10:37:20 PM 986 Views
Your journal entry is revealing. You sound bitter and hurt. I hope you find the healing you need. - 15/06/2011 01:40:23 AM 994 Views
You know what? not called for. *NM* - 15/06/2011 02:05:14 PM 324 Views
Why not? - 15/06/2011 11:59:36 PM 899 Views
The first portion of what you said, isn't yours to say. - 16/06/2011 03:43:57 PM 716 Views
I'm with Anastasia on this. - 16/06/2011 06:39:56 PM 1045 Views
Re: It's funny - 14/06/2011 03:50:13 AM 1016 Views
Re: It's funny - 14/06/2011 10:28:32 PM 1063 Views
On a completely unrelated note - 14/06/2011 11:03:58 PM 933 Views
Re: On a completely unrelated note - 14/06/2011 11:14:18 PM 968 Views
Bummer *NM* - 14/06/2011 11:20:24 PM 432 Views
TMJ is right. - 15/06/2011 02:11:57 PM 1002 Views
Re: TMJ is right. - 16/06/2011 12:22:10 AM 1060 Views
Yes. - 16/06/2011 03:41:05 PM 876 Views
Re: Yes. - 17/06/2011 01:51:11 AM 810 Views
Gee thanks. - 17/06/2011 05:04:37 AM 1256 Views
Didn't suit you. - 18/06/2011 12:58:53 AM 1010 Views
On a totally unrelated note... - 15/06/2011 01:43:23 AM 955 Views
Excuse me while I go hit something. A journalism major perhaps. *NM* - 12/06/2011 09:09:26 PM 443 Views
Stunning rebuttal!!! *NM* - 12/06/2011 10:07:39 PM 330 Views
Theres nothing there I really need to refute.... - 13/06/2011 01:20:43 AM 876 Views
Well, thanks for contributing nothing to the discussion. *NM* - 13/06/2011 04:41:56 AM 337 Views
Is there a reason you feel the need to jump up my ass? *NM* - 13/06/2011 05:16:53 AM 491 Views
Your winning personality? - 13/06/2011 03:45:09 PM 971 Views
I'd say 'endearing' is the proper term. - 13/06/2011 10:43:01 PM 899 Views
Nice name new. - 15/06/2011 01:44:25 AM 920 Views
Wow. Interesting. *NM* - 13/06/2011 07:04:08 AM 424 Views
Giving up porn (a male perspective) - 13/06/2011 04:29:52 PM 1019 Views
Thanks for sharing. ^_^ *NM* - 13/06/2011 09:05:51 PM 485 Views
Re: It's a sexy topic, but all these generalizations are becoming wet blankets. - 14/06/2011 02:13:31 AM 1005 Views
I think you are spot on with the seal theory. - 14/06/2011 05:16:59 PM 1058 Views
[something less snarky] - 14/06/2011 10:17:18 PM 1095 Views
Re: What? - 15/06/2011 12:01:36 AM 1052 Views
Re: What? - 15/06/2011 12:20:56 AM 1010 Views
Re: How come your 1st edit is not at all what was originally posted? - 15/06/2011 03:06:02 AM 1029 Views
About time to reevaluate Tom's claims, I think, eh? *NM* - 15/06/2011 03:59:31 AM 460 Views
my turn: what? - 15/06/2011 04:12:51 AM 1073 Views
Wow, well speaking as a prude... - 14/06/2011 03:36:23 AM 1034 Views
Funny how so many fault lines rupture in the comments to posts like this - 14/06/2011 04:23:23 AM 1130 Views
To quote Cat Valente: - 14/06/2011 04:37:39 AM 855 Views
It is a two-way street, unfortunately - 14/06/2011 04:40:58 AM 972 Views
so the problem is southern women are just not good enough for you? - 14/06/2011 01:51:30 PM 952 Views
No, more like not similar enough - 14/06/2011 04:13:52 PM 977 Views
Some people aren't cut out to be in a relationship - 14/06/2011 04:25:09 PM 993 Views
True - 14/06/2011 04:56:05 PM 820 Views
As someone who has never lived under the same roof more than five consecutive years - 14/06/2011 06:06:10 PM 1068 Views
Job. Always a job matter. - 14/06/2011 11:22:33 PM 1118 Views
Try south Texas, you may not notice you are not in South America - 15/06/2011 02:44:21 AM 900 Views
Ha! I used to live in the metro Miami area, so I know what you mean - 15/06/2011 03:20:41 AM 960 Views
sweet jesus you are crazy - 15/06/2011 04:38:28 AM 812 Views
Maybe, but it certainly drains me of being involved much elsewhere - 15/06/2011 05:29:21 AM 1042 Views
Why all this vitriol? - 14/06/2011 05:19:47 AM 943 Views
It started there here: - 14/06/2011 01:06:32 PM 1011 Views
Tom made an untenable comment - 14/06/2011 01:21:06 PM 916 Views
Book clubs are scary places - 14/06/2011 05:03:03 PM 734 Views
Chocolate, wine, books. Also tea? - 14/06/2011 09:00:06 PM 1042 Views
Maybe without the wine? - 15/06/2011 05:06:53 AM 918 Views
I don't feel particularly vitriolic. - 14/06/2011 10:18:44 PM 939 Views
I didn't mean you... - 15/06/2011 05:24:56 AM 938 Views
We haven't had one of these in a while! - 14/06/2011 06:36:18 AM 979 Views
Agreed. I laughed, I cried, it was touching. *NM* - 14/06/2011 08:49:40 AM 330 Views
This post got more abused than a nasty Japanese bukkake! Lol. *NM* - 15/06/2011 10:07:04 AM 520 Views
I started to read this but got bored and looked at porn. - 14/06/2011 03:15:28 PM 997 Views
Re: I started to read this but got bored and looked at porn. - 14/06/2011 03:27:51 PM 1055 Views
Oh yeah. - 14/06/2011 03:31:42 PM 1031 Views
- 14/06/2011 08:48:55 PM 1029 Views
I think I've read pretty much all of it. I think it's better than porn. Well, bad porn. - 14/06/2011 11:01:20 PM 1002 Views
that was funny *NM* - 15/06/2011 02:42:13 AM 335 Views
Bad porn is the worst! - 15/06/2011 02:13:59 PM 854 Views
You know what Tom, it occurs to me that this is very American thinking. - 15/06/2011 03:07:00 AM 933 Views
Actually, my Russian guy friends tend to be more vehement than I am on this point. - 15/06/2011 05:12:51 AM 1257 Views
Huh, could it be because most Russians are atheist? - 15/06/2011 05:36:47 AM 1040 Views
That could be a major part of it - 16/06/2011 09:06:21 PM 891 Views
Ah, you've seen EuroTrip, too. *NM* - 17/06/2011 01:52:27 AM 445 Views

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