Re: I disagree with the whole last third or fourth of the article.
everynametaken Send a noteboard - 12/06/2011 08:49:39 PM
I also thought the article veered into a direction it didn't have too. I would have preferred it stay on track, focusing on men's changing libidos as a result of Online pornography. I think going into the direction it did opens up a whole different can of worms that may have more issues at its core than just men watching excessive amounts of pornography. I found the article interesting mainly though because it isn't an issue talked about much. There has never been this kind of exposure to pornography and I have myself even wondered due to my interests in psychology if women in a way have become unnecessary to some men whereas in the past those men would have pursued the real thing. I think it is a fascinating question, that is how has the influx of easily accessible pornography on demand "changed the game".
But wine was the great assassin of both tradition and propriety...
-Brandon Sanderson, The Way of Kings
-Brandon Sanderson, The Way of Kings
He’s Just Not That Into Anyone (an article about watching porn and men's changing libidos).
11/06/2011 10:52:10 PM
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I disagree with the whole last third or fourth of the article.
12/06/2011 02:01:40 AM
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Re: I disagree with the whole last third or fourth of the article.
12/06/2011 08:49:39 PM
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A lot of guys who get hooked on porn don't know how to approach women
12/06/2011 10:55:17 PM
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Funny
13/06/2011 01:22:28 AM
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You obviously never had a fulfilling long term sexual relationship with a woman.
13/06/2011 10:43:23 AM
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Oh My
13/06/2011 03:29:34 PM
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*giggle*
13/06/2011 03:46:28 PM
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Oh, I tend to be loving and appreciative
13/06/2011 05:08:56 PM
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That isnt fair, Helene *NM*
13/06/2011 06:22:25 PM
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What isn't fair?
13/06/2011 08:07:08 PM
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I'm not looking for someone to fix, but the not fair bit I was refering to was little irony dig *NM*
13/06/2011 10:10:11 PM
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You don't need to be broken to enjoy being appreciated
13/06/2011 10:17:01 PM
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No, Helene, You repeatedly attempt to sidetrack discussion with attacks against my person
13/06/2011 10:20:01 PM
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But it makes me feel good
13/06/2011 10:45:07 PM
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I'm not a hedonist
13/06/2011 10:57:25 PM
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If you really wanted to debate the actual issue, you would have. *NM*
13/06/2011 11:51:53 PM
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I don't believe that at all.
13/06/2011 04:48:26 AM
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Ok, perhaps I can't talk from experience... as that group of men has self selected out of the game
13/06/2011 10:47:59 AM
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Showing appreciation is a losing strategy.
13/06/2011 04:55:09 AM
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So you don't know how to open a woman up sexually
13/06/2011 10:51:17 AM
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Oh how clever of you!
13/06/2011 09:59:01 PM
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Not to gang up on you or anything, but...
13/06/2011 10:15:57 PM
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If you'ld actually read his post Tom gave reasons beyond lack of sexual adventuressness *NM*
13/06/2011 10:17:11 PM
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Of which the "letting you do your own thing" was the only one I can take seriously.
13/06/2011 10:30:10 PM
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So rather than adress your disagreement on the facts you just pretended he didn't say them? *NM*
13/06/2011 10:34:02 PM
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I'm sure that there are Eastern European women who will fulfill the "traditionally female role"?
13/06/2011 10:43:43 PM
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It's that the prudishness is indicative of a more general sense of entitlement and manipulativeness.
13/06/2011 11:02:20 PM
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Yes. And "passive-aggressive behavior" is another one I'd add. *NM*
13/06/2011 11:18:40 PM
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So far in this debate, you've only displayed your feelings of entitlement
14/06/2011 12:05:16 AM
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I give to the relationship. I give a shitload of money.
14/06/2011 12:13:47 AM
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Bringing in money does not a relationship make. The rest, however, sounds a lot better
14/06/2011 12:38:45 AM
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So Let me understand what you are saying...
14/06/2011 02:40:50 AM
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I'm not sure, based on that response, you're capable of understanding anything at all.
14/06/2011 03:17:37 AM
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I can see why you might have trouble finding an American woman who would agree with that
14/06/2011 02:00:49 PM
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Guys have their own problems, but the conversation is revolving around women at the moment. *NM* *NM*
14/06/2011 01:23:20 AM
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The conversation did start being about MEN's problems.
14/06/2011 03:36:36 AM
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Be good, Ana.
14/06/2011 03:40:12 AM
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You may be mistaken.
14/06/2011 03:54:28 AM
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Thats unfortuanate, Ana
14/06/2011 03:58:50 AM
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The only reason the conversation is revolving around women is because Tom laid all the blame at
14/06/2011 07:35:34 AM
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Wow.. all the misogynists came out to play
13/06/2011 11:57:05 PM
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I don't see a lot of misogyny.
14/06/2011 12:59:06 AM
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You are blind to misogyny because you lack awareness in that area
14/06/2011 07:38:48 AM
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Why misogynist? Why not Anti-American?
14/06/2011 01:32:17 AM
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So, which women are better than American women?
14/06/2011 03:38:38 AM
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Re: Haha
14/06/2011 04:18:46 AM
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You seem very intent on coming off as the smartest guy in the room.
14/06/2011 04:40:26 AM
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I think that's an unfair characterization of the RP board
14/06/2011 04:58:29 AM
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Who are you, again?
14/06/2011 05:07:04 AM
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Tsk. I need to be more memorable.
14/06/2011 05:16:33 AM
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Er, see my post withe country names in it. I hate this messageboard layout. *NM* *NM*
14/06/2011 04:50:31 AM
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Spain, Norway, Japan?
14/06/2011 04:38:43 AM
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Norway is the only one that passes.
14/06/2011 01:14:54 PM
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Why did I pick that one? Because you completely ignore men's part in a culture that sexually
14/06/2011 07:54:39 AM
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Helene, you're also not an American woman.
14/06/2011 01:03:23 PM
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It's the people who make sweeping generalisations about American women who need to defend themselves
14/06/2011 01:18:43 PM
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I didn't ignore it at all. I just bracketed it. It's quite possible, you know.
14/06/2011 08:49:03 PM
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I don't exactly expect to influence your opinion, just to voice my own.
13/06/2011 10:40:39 PM
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The last part summed it up nicely. That was all I thought you meant anyway.
14/06/2011 03:17:45 AM
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Oh, but I can do any and all of these things!
14/06/2011 12:06:41 AM
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hey! I really like your poem "name" - syllables knowing other lovers - excellent.
15/06/2011 01:49:06 AM
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I agree.
13/06/2011 01:23:51 PM
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Inside the bedroom? Sure. I could agree. But you're not American anyway.
13/06/2011 08:52:42 PM
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You're basically just saying that American attitudes toward sex results in repressed women
13/06/2011 09:03:47 PM
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Theoretically they can be "unrepressed". But why waste the time and effort?
13/06/2011 10:06:52 PM
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How can you tell it's because she cares, instead of because that's what's traditionally expected
13/06/2011 10:48:12 PM
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It's funny
13/06/2011 02:51:03 PM
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Well of course you can't see the faults of American women. You're American.
13/06/2011 08:51:35 PM
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I'm sure that American women, along with all other women on earth
13/06/2011 09:00:33 PM
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It's not my job to make a girl comfortable about her sexuality.
13/06/2011 10:03:27 PM
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If the sex is all there is, then yes, makes sense.
13/06/2011 10:18:15 PM
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Who willingly goes into a relationship knowing the sex will be bad?
14/06/2011 03:52:43 AM
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And you don't think that the men in these relationships contributed to the current situation at all?
14/06/2011 07:59:15 AM
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In this particular aspect, absolutely not.
14/06/2011 02:19:33 PM
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Of course I consider that you might be right
14/06/2011 03:59:50 PM
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^ And this response immediately above is my last. This is eating into a real workday now. ^
14/06/2011 05:53:43 PM
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Loads of people, if that's compensated by other things?
14/06/2011 08:38:45 PM
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I would rather be in a good marriage with bad sex than the other way around *NM*
14/06/2011 10:33:27 PM
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Of course it is your job as a sex partner to make your partner feel comfortable about being with you
13/06/2011 10:50:52 PM
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Like fucking Hell it is.
14/06/2011 12:18:02 AM
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You're totally cracking me up in here.
14/06/2011 12:30:39 AM
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Have you ever been accused of date rape?
14/06/2011 12:46:30 AM
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No. And that's an absurd question.
14/06/2011 01:08:13 AM
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No, the point you were arguing was absurd. I just pointed out what you were arguing.
14/06/2011 08:03:13 AM
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Let's cut the sophistry
14/06/2011 02:24:52 PM
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If that's what you wanted to say, it would have helped for you to be more explicit.
14/06/2011 04:10:43 PM
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"Why do these women use sex as a manipulative tool?"
14/06/2011 05:06:33 PM
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It seems to me there is a very simple answer to that question.
14/06/2011 05:26:09 PM
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I don't think it works at all.
14/06/2011 05:48:48 PM
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Your anecdotal evidence suggests otherwise.
14/06/2011 06:31:28 PM
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I agree with Sareitha. Women do that because it (apears to) works for them, in the short term
14/06/2011 08:28:11 PM
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I can't see that I would put up with that either
14/06/2011 10:32:09 PM
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I haven't tried it either. Seems to me like that is closely related to The Silent Treatment.
15/06/2011 03:43:45 AM
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A fairly self-aware American. With many female friends, even
13/06/2011 11:59:34 PM
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Yeah I don't buy that "most American girls are prudes" concept
14/06/2011 04:10:37 PM
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I think most of it depends on the "type" of girl a guy goes for.
14/06/2011 11:09:34 PM
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some times there is a fine line between kinky and perverted sometimes there isn't
14/06/2011 11:32:17 PM
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A moment
14/06/2011 05:01:05 PM
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Camilla, I'm trying to keep this at arm's length a bit.
14/06/2011 05:42:18 PM
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But you started it.
14/06/2011 08:43:47 PM
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I did start it, yes.
16/06/2011 03:32:54 PM
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You should have quit before this.
16/06/2011 03:46:01 PM
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No, I shouldn't have.
16/06/2011 04:03:21 PM
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Re: I did start it, yes.
16/06/2011 03:46:06 PM
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Yes, we do!
16/06/2011 04:04:02 PM
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Take is up the ass or you are a prude?
16/06/2011 04:09:54 PM
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Maybe Tom will make allowances for preferences instead of an unwillingness because it's "wrong"? *NM*
16/06/2011 04:22:45 PM
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You didn't read the list very well.
16/06/2011 07:08:19 PM
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Re: The idea that If it hurts it's not being done right - Not neccessarily.
17/06/2011 01:13:18 AM
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If I weren't such a prude (3), I would post this list to facebook.
16/06/2011 05:08:05 PM
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You mixed up prudishness and sexual compatibility with you
16/06/2011 05:21:31 PM
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No I didn't.
16/06/2011 07:14:27 PM
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Calling my response a knee jerk reaction is just silly, and in itself, a knee jerk response.
16/06/2011 07:38:28 PM
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Okay. I'm going to just stop replying.
16/06/2011 08:28:02 PM
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Your world view is just too self referential to be
16/06/2011 08:36:39 PM
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As is yours. *NM*
16/06/2011 08:44:10 PM
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Question
16/06/2011 07:42:37 PM
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Ha Ha, who cares about the guy? It is only female sexuality that is on trial.
16/06/2011 08:06:33 PM
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That is an incorrect assumption.
16/06/2011 08:30:08 PM
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Awww you didn't take my bait!
16/06/2011 08:44:16 PM
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There's very little I haven't been willing to do
16/06/2011 08:52:31 PM
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Hehehe, But *I* recall it!
16/06/2011 09:22:40 PM
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Wait, I think I know what you're talking about.
16/06/2011 09:27:20 PM
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Damn, I was going to guess "in a coffin".
16/06/2011 09:31:36 PM
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She's significantly younger than O'Donnell, and was better looking.
16/06/2011 09:33:51 PM
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I'm reminded of an ex of mine
16/06/2011 08:32:34 PM
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That's really awful.
16/06/2011 09:16:33 PM
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When you're with a person who appreciates you, it's not like that at all
16/06/2011 09:29:32 PM
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THIS!! LISTEN!! the woman is * lightbulb* speaking from a woman's perspective.
14/06/2011 02:52:26 AM
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Wondering why we're still single, are we? Try a minimum of politeness first.
14/06/2011 03:21:15 AM
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Where did I insinuate you can't please women? *NM*
14/06/2011 08:05:14 AM
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I refer you to "So you don't know how to open a woman up sexually" *NM*
14/06/2011 02:09:40 PM
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That's not about pleasing, that's about making someone feel confident and safe
14/06/2011 04:13:24 PM
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What B/c i sank you YOUR level? Piss Off. AS if I give 2 shits what you think about me.
16/06/2011 02:19:04 AM
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Becca, can you pinpoint the moment you became a bitter worndown shell of a woman? *NM*
16/06/2011 03:21:21 AM
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Your journal entry is revealing. You sound bitter and hurt. I hope you find the healing you need.
15/06/2011 01:40:23 AM
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You know what? not called for. *NM*
15/06/2011 02:05:14 PM
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Re: It's funny
14/06/2011 03:50:13 AM
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On a completely unrelated note
14/06/2011 11:03:58 PM
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TMJ is right.
15/06/2011 02:11:57 PM
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Re: TMJ is right.
16/06/2011 12:22:10 AM
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Yes.
16/06/2011 03:41:05 PM
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Excuse me while I go hit something. A journalism major perhaps. *NM*
12/06/2011 09:09:26 PM
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Stunning rebuttal!!! *NM*
12/06/2011 10:07:39 PM
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Theres nothing there I really need to refute....
13/06/2011 01:20:43 AM
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Well, thanks for contributing nothing to the discussion. *NM*
13/06/2011 04:41:56 AM
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Is there a reason you feel the need to jump up my ass? *NM*
13/06/2011 05:16:53 AM
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Your winning personality?
13/06/2011 03:45:09 PM
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of course looking at tons of porn all the time is going to affect men
13/06/2011 11:15:02 PM
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You make a lot of sense, thanks for posting and adding your perspective. *NM*
14/06/2011 12:11:03 AM
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Re: It's a sexy topic, but all these generalizations are becoming wet blankets.
14/06/2011 02:13:31 AM
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I think this and the replies by Post Secret and random thoughts all kind of get at my ideas here.
14/06/2011 02:30:52 PM
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There is way too much crap in this thread, but I give this reply my seal of approval. *NM*
14/06/2011 05:02:04 PM
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I think you are spot on with the seal theory.
14/06/2011 05:16:59 PM
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Dirty motherfuckers! We need to lift all bans on whaling immediately to stem this momentum! *NM*
15/06/2011 01:56:30 AM
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[something less snarky]
14/06/2011 10:17:18 PM
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Re: How come your 1st edit is not at all what was originally posted?
15/06/2011 03:06:02 AM
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Funny how so many fault lines rupture in the comments to posts like this
14/06/2011 04:23:23 AM
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so the problem is southern women are just not good enough for you?
14/06/2011 01:51:30 PM
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No, more like not similar enough
14/06/2011 04:13:52 PM
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As someone who has never lived under the same roof more than five consecutive years
14/06/2011 06:06:10 PM
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Job. Always a job matter.
14/06/2011 11:22:33 PM
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Try south Texas, you may not notice you are not in South America
15/06/2011 02:44:21 AM
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Ha! I used to live in the metro Miami area, so I know what you mean
15/06/2011 03:20:41 AM
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sweet jesus you are crazy
15/06/2011 04:38:28 AM
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Maybe, but it certainly drains me of being involved much elsewhere
15/06/2011 05:29:21 AM
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Why all this vitriol?
14/06/2011 05:19:47 AM
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It started there here:
14/06/2011 01:06:32 PM
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Tom made an untenable comment
14/06/2011 01:21:06 PM
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Interestingly, the article talked about men being prudish in their real lives.
14/06/2011 03:27:00 PM
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I figure this may be true, but I can't speak from a lot of experience.
14/06/2011 04:23:08 PM
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I was writing a lengthy reply to disagree, but then I ended up rather close to where you stand.
14/06/2011 09:17:55 PM
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We haven't had one of these in a while!
14/06/2011 06:36:18 AM
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Yes, it takes a good flame war to get the engines firing on all cylinders.
14/06/2011 02:00:20 PM
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This post got more abused than a nasty Japanese bukkake! Lol. *NM*
15/06/2011 10:07:04 AM
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I started to read this but got bored and looked at porn.
14/06/2011 03:15:28 PM
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I think I've read pretty much all of it. I think it's better than porn. Well, bad porn.
14/06/2011 11:01:20 PM
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You know what Tom, it occurs to me that this is very American thinking.
15/06/2011 03:07:00 AM
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Actually, my Russian guy friends tend to be more vehement than I am on this point.
15/06/2011 05:12:51 AM
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Huh, could it be because most Russians are atheist?
15/06/2011 05:36:47 AM
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That could be a major part of it
16/06/2011 09:06:21 PM
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Well, there's no question that a prior consultation with me could strengthen any argument. *NM*
16/06/2011 10:36:12 PM
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