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In other words, this is as "unprecedented" as filibustering Bush judicial nominees (i.e. it's not). Joel Send a noteboard - 10/06/2011 12:55:17 AM
John Adams, our second President, passed a health care mandate for privately employed sailors in 1798. See the link for details.
As for Congress’ understanding of the limits of the Constitution at the time the Act was passed, it is worth noting that Thomas Jefferson was the President of the Senate during the 5th Congress while Jonathan Dayton, the youngest man to sign the United States Constitution, was the Speaker of the House.

Unfortunately, when people tell me they the Federal Insurance Contributions Act and resultant SSA Old-Age, Survivors, and Disability Insurance program aren't insurance I think we're into the realm of "don't confuse me with facts". :[ Again, the really absurd thing is that all the conservative challenges to the healthcare law are based on it doing what those same conservatives demanded: Making national healthcare a PRIVATE rather than PUBLIC service. Had Obama told them to go Cheney themselves and pushed through a public option we wouldn't be having this discussion, and would all be a lot better off because, despite their disingenuous motives, the GOP challengers to the law are right that it's a bad idea to require every American purchase insurance from the same private companies that had already made it so unaffordable for so many. Again, whether it's actually unconstitutional or just monumentally stupid and counterproductive remains to be seen.
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ObamaCare's Legal Death Spiral Continues.....great news for America! - 08/06/2011 10:04:24 PM 857 Views
I'm not informed enough to comment on most of this, but can someone explain that last line to me? - 08/06/2011 11:25:49 PM 526 Views
just a guess but - 08/06/2011 11:40:44 PM 390 Views
Yeah, and I guess that's what I was missing (see my response to Tom). - 09/06/2011 07:13:00 AM 374 Views
keep in mind it is a legal argument - 09/06/2011 01:50:05 PM 350 Views
It's incredibly different. - 09/06/2011 03:03:07 AM 401 Views
Well. . .sort of. - 09/06/2011 07:00:30 AM 517 Views
"...the government mandate to have health insurance was unlike any law in American history"... - 09/06/2011 05:24:56 AM 375 Views
wait.... - 09/06/2011 04:34:13 PM 421 Views
+1 - apples and oranges here..... *NM* - 09/06/2011 05:38:40 PM 143 Views
Re: wait.... - 10/06/2011 02:36:33 AM 359 Views
if you want to opt out just work for a local government - 09/06/2011 06:01:06 PM 359 Views
Local government employees don't pay FICA? Where? - 10/06/2011 12:03:49 AM 363 Views
Actually, there's an even more relevant example. - 09/06/2011 08:01:18 PM 483 Views
That's a very flawed example - 09/06/2011 09:06:24 PM 368 Views
Excellent response.....you hit the nail on the head..... *NM* - 09/06/2011 09:12:06 PM 160 Views
In other words, this is as "unprecedented" as filibustering Bush judicial nominees (i.e. it's not). - 10/06/2011 12:55:17 AM 335 Views

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