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wait.... scalius Send a noteboard - 09/06/2011 04:34:13 PM
SS is a tax, there's no product purchased. For paying that tax now, you become entitled to future return payments. It does nothing for you in the immediate, and in fact may never do anything for you period. It's a monetary transaction.

Insurance is a product, with monthly premiums, highly detailed specifics about coverage, procedures, and benefits which are available immediately. It provides you health coverage beyond what you can pay out of pocket and defrays your costs over many years.

I don't see how the two are related in the context you place them. Unless you are claiming that private health insurance is equivalent to a federal tax?
I would slave, to pave the way, to sink your ship of fools.
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ObamaCare's Legal Death Spiral Continues.....great news for America! trzaska2000 - 08/06/2011 10:04:24 PM 938 Views
I'm not informed enough to comment on most of this, but can someone explain that last line to me? Aemon - 08/06/2011 11:25:49 PM 560 Views
just a guess but random thoughts - 08/06/2011 11:40:44 PM 465 Views
Yeah, and I guess that's what I was missing (see my response to Tom). Aemon - 09/06/2011 07:13:00 AM 441 Views
keep in mind it is a legal argument random thoughts - 09/06/2011 01:50:05 PM 422 Views
A lot of the debate from the centered around how many of those people there are. Joel - 10/06/2011 01:15:19 AM 448 Views
It's incredibly different. Tom - 09/06/2011 03:03:07 AM 474 Views
Well. . .sort of. Aemon - 09/06/2011 07:00:30 AM 588 Views
"...the government mandate to have health insurance was unlike any law in American history"... Joel - 09/06/2011 05:24:56 AM 454 Views
wait.... scalius - 09/06/2011 04:34:13 PM 490 Views
+1 - apples and oranges here..... *NM* trzaska2000 - 09/06/2011 05:38:40 PM 170 Views
Guess what the "I" in FICA is; the Old-Age, Survivors, and Disability Insurance program is insurance Joel - 10/06/2011 12:34:04 AM 584 Views
Re: wait.... moondog - 10/06/2011 02:36:33 AM 431 Views
if you want to opt out just work for a local government random thoughts - 09/06/2011 06:01:06 PM 419 Views
Local government employees don't pay FICA? Where? Joel - 10/06/2011 12:03:49 AM 428 Views
a few high profile cases does not equal "most" in any sense of the word *NM* moondog - 10/06/2011 02:38:26 AM 179 Views
Actually, there's an even more relevant example. Dreaded Anomaly - 09/06/2011 08:01:18 PM 544 Views
That's the best link I've ever seen posted anywhere on the internet. *NM* Macharius - 09/06/2011 08:26:02 PM 173 Views
That's a very flawed example Isaac - 09/06/2011 09:06:24 PM 435 Views
Excellent response.....you hit the nail on the head..... *NM* trzaska2000 - 09/06/2011 09:12:06 PM 190 Views
Did you read the Act itself? Macharius - 10/06/2011 04:04:39 PM 411 Views
Yes, did you get the 'foriegn port' part of sentence, or did you stop reading after the comma? Isaac - 10/06/2011 06:11:27 PM 411 Views
Re: Yes, did you get the 'foriegn port' part of sentence, or did you stop reading after the comma? Macharius - 10/06/2011 06:54:29 PM 419 Views
It might help if you clarified what your point is Isaac - 10/06/2011 08:05:30 PM 413 Views
besides it was still just a condition for a specific job not a blanket requirement for breathing random thoughts - 10/06/2011 08:36:07 PM 418 Views
Yes, that would have seemed the core point I thought Isaac - 10/06/2011 09:13:42 PM 415 Views
In other words, this is as "unprecedented" as filibustering Bush judicial nominees (i.e. it's not). Joel - 10/06/2011 12:55:17 AM 415 Views
Oh well. Living in a shit hole country is something I love and a chance to change that is BS. callandor1000 - 12/06/2011 05:21:25 PM 417 Views
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