I was saying that a long term, post diagnosis insurance plan would be the same as a hospital bill that you pay over time. I said that because insurance is a game of odds; you pay a fee based on the likelihood of needing a particular level of care. Once it's confirmed that you need that care, however, there are no longer any odds to play. The only number it makes sense to insure you for is the expense of the treatment, making such an insurance policy identical to a bill.
Anyway, you didn't argue with me, you just said "but when billing goes through insurance companies, people have to pre-pay and provide an SSN." All incompetence jokes aside, I'm sure the government realizes that mandating the above billing practices for hospitals would provide the same benefits as forcing people to go through insurance companies. Yet they've still said "we're proposing that you need to buy insurance." I'm just curious what the reason for that is.
Having thought about it some more, though, I guess it's not all that confusing. I was focusing too much on the big hospital bill issue (if someone can't pay the bill, why would they pay the insurance?). It makes sense for small bills, though. If I'm able to purchase insurance and choose not to, but then I need relatively cheap hospital care that requires me to purchase insurance, I'll probably go for it. More importantly, I'll probably continue to pay the insurance rather than risk the legal ramifications of defaulting.
Of course, I'm not sure how many law abiding citizens you'd find that chose not to buy insurance despite being able to. Still, whether that number is 1 or 1,000,000,000, it's better than nothing, right? Sorry for my rambling posts, but I appreciate the response.
Anyway, you didn't argue with me, you just said "but when billing goes through insurance companies, people have to pre-pay and provide an SSN." All incompetence jokes aside, I'm sure the government realizes that mandating the above billing practices for hospitals would provide the same benefits as forcing people to go through insurance companies. Yet they've still said "we're proposing that you need to buy insurance." I'm just curious what the reason for that is.
Having thought about it some more, though, I guess it's not all that confusing. I was focusing too much on the big hospital bill issue (if someone can't pay the bill, why would they pay the insurance?). It makes sense for small bills, though. If I'm able to purchase insurance and choose not to, but then I need relatively cheap hospital care that requires me to purchase insurance, I'll probably go for it. More importantly, I'll probably continue to pay the insurance rather than risk the legal ramifications of defaulting.
Of course, I'm not sure how many law abiding citizens you'd find that chose not to buy insurance despite being able to. Still, whether that number is 1 or 1,000,000,000, it's better than nothing, right? Sorry for my rambling posts, but I appreciate the response.
ObamaCare's Legal Death Spiral Continues.....great news for America!
08/06/2011 10:04:24 PM
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I'm not informed enough to comment on most of this, but can someone explain that last line to me?
08/06/2011 11:25:49 PM
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just a guess but
08/06/2011 11:40:44 PM
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Yeah, and I guess that's what I was missing (see my response to Tom).
09/06/2011 07:13:00 AM
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A lot of the debate from the centered around how many of those people there are.
10/06/2011 01:15:19 AM
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It's incredibly different.
09/06/2011 03:03:07 AM
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Well. . .sort of.
09/06/2011 07:00:30 AM
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"...the government mandate to have health insurance was unlike any law in American history"...
09/06/2011 05:24:56 AM
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wait....
09/06/2011 04:34:13 PM
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Guess what the "I" in FICA is; the Old-Age, Survivors, and Disability Insurance program is insurance
10/06/2011 12:34:04 AM
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if you want to opt out just work for a local government
09/06/2011 06:01:06 PM
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a few high profile cases does not equal "most" in any sense of the word *NM*
10/06/2011 02:38:26 AM
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Actually, there's an even more relevant example.
09/06/2011 08:01:18 PM
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That's the best link I've ever seen posted anywhere on the internet. *NM*
09/06/2011 08:26:02 PM
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That's a very flawed example
09/06/2011 09:06:24 PM
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Did you read the Act itself?
10/06/2011 04:04:39 PM
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Yes, did you get the 'foriegn port' part of sentence, or did you stop reading after the comma?
10/06/2011 06:11:27 PM
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Re: Yes, did you get the 'foriegn port' part of sentence, or did you stop reading after the comma?
10/06/2011 06:54:29 PM
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It might help if you clarified what your point is
10/06/2011 08:05:30 PM
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besides it was still just a condition for a specific job not a blanket requirement for breathing
10/06/2011 08:36:07 PM
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In other words, this is as "unprecedented" as filibustering Bush judicial nominees (i.e. it's not).
10/06/2011 12:55:17 AM
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Oh well. Living in a shit hole country is something I love and a chance to change that is BS.
12/06/2011 05:21:25 PM
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