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Yes. Panorphaeon Send a noteboard - 31/05/2011 06:33:05 PM
Most trips involve a 4-5 hour experience, and they all end automatically and on their own. The more you cling to things or try to control what is happening the more paranoia you will feel. The point is to let go.

In a purely Buddhist sense, the experience is very interesting as an exercise of how the ego desperately seeks to assert itself when its perception of reality is altered. Paranoia, delusions, focusing on unimportant details, apprehending things that are not happening in such a way as to improperly see what is actually present (i.e., imposing your interpretation on events such that your actual view changes) and latching onto ungrounded fears.

Letting go, just "being" and letting things take you where they will, helps the experience be positive. If you go in with fears you will hold onto them when in the experience. As Timothy Leary, quoted by John Lennon, said, "Turn off your mind, relax and float downstream."


First of all, I'm not a stranger to the experience. And I understand perfectly the attitude necessary to achieve the best effect. But what you're describing are methods I'm having a hard enough time with in my everyday life, hence my apprehension about inflating the difficulties. I have thought about it a lot and sometimes it seems the best thing would be to just take it on, deal with it, and possibly come out better able to deal with my doubts. On the other hand I work with crazy people and I have no small fear of losing my mind and ending up incarcerated.

Just "being" is great when one is capable of it, but being able to simply turn off one's mind is more of a considerable challenge, I think, than what you're presenting here. That's why I have felt for a long time that I ought to achieve some level of aptitude with certain meditation practices before taking on another trip. I need to know that I can get back to that center, and right now, where I've been the last year or so, I just don't have any faith in that.

And by the way, I think that saying all trips automatically end on their own is a pretty terrible generalization. Metabolically, that may be true, but there's a huge contingency, on type and dose of drug. I find myself quite sensitive to psychedelics and I tend to not feel 'normal' until at least a full day has passed. Granted, only 4-6 hours of that may have the real intensity of the drug, but the lasting effects can be very considerable, in my opinion.
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