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so get a warrant if these guys are such threats to society moondog Send a noteboard - 17/05/2011 12:57:51 AM
Sorry but I would need a few more details before I believe that is what happened in case you mentioned. I suspect they had more reason than he was a Muslim to track him. It is not that hard to cry victim these days and a lot of people are so willing to believe anything they hear if it supports their worldview that you really don't need evidence to back it up.

Right now I don't see a real threat but from this, give some real evidience and that would change. The crime these guys committed on the other hand is a real threat. Home invasion is an incredible dangerous crime where families are attacked in their own home while they are sitting around watching American Idol. Sorry I am more scared of the idea that a group of violent men with guns will kick in my front door and take me a my family prisoner than I am that the government is going to try and start tracking me. One is something I hear happening every night on the news while the other is something I only see in bad movies.


the main issue is that these devices are being placed without a warrant with the excuse being that "the cars are traveling on public spaces therefore they are in the public domain". sorry, but that is a bullshit reason to invade someone's privacy. once again, if the threat is real, get a warrant. the cops and the FBI already get practically unlimited power to wiretap, why do they need unlimited power to physically track us too? checks and balances exist for a reason, and no excuse is good enough to take away these rights.
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secret GPS tracking upheld as legal practice - 16/05/2011 02:37:14 PM 825 Views
How do they expect honest criminals to make a living with rules like this? - 16/05/2011 06:24:45 PM 435 Views
sure this example is about convicted robbers - 16/05/2011 06:42:51 PM 407 Views
I will have a problem when I see innocent people being targeted for no reason - 16/05/2011 09:17:22 PM 390 Views
so get a warrant if these guys are such threats to society - 17/05/2011 12:57:51 AM 393 Views
once again privacy takes place in private not in public. That is sorta where the word comes from - 17/05/2011 02:23:05 PM 403 Views
checks and balances - 17/05/2011 09:22:13 PM 434 Views
no the police can follow you around without probable cause - 17/05/2011 10:09:57 PM 392 Views
the constitution guarantees the right of privacy to all, not just law abiding citizens - 16/05/2011 09:14:24 PM 391 Views
where does it say that? It should be real easy to point to since it is in the constiution - 16/05/2011 09:21:19 PM 452 Views
4th amendment - 17/05/2011 12:55:00 AM 434 Views
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try reading it again it doesn't have the word privacy in it - 17/05/2011 02:42:44 PM 414 Views
how is surveillance not a type of search? *NM* - 17/05/2011 09:25:27 PM 217 Views
Because it's surveillance when they're in public. - 17/05/2011 09:31:02 PM 436 Views
The kiddies still call it weed. *NM* - 18/05/2011 12:08:26 AM 183 Views
your example does not quite work for this situation - 18/05/2011 01:49:02 AM 414 Views
how is different if it is done by GPS or tailing them in a car? *NM* - 17/05/2011 10:00:53 PM 177 Views
it's not different -- if they get a warrant first - 18/05/2011 01:50:13 AM 399 Views
OK I will use smaller words - 18/05/2011 02:23:05 PM 429 Views
spelling it out for you - 18/05/2011 04:18:45 PM 496 Views
I'm happy with it. *NM* - 17/05/2011 03:04:42 AM 303 Views
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