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Oh, is that how we're playing this, then? Dannymac Send a noteboard - 13/05/2011 06:29:31 PM
You didn't answer my Biblical facts that you missed, so you are great at only seeing what agrees with you.

You pretend that your translation is the only way to translate, so you are great at being the universe.

You see what you want to see. That's your call. You can even call me a hypocrite. Good on you.

But while you walk around feeling all superior, you are depending on a simplistic view of Biblical work that means you might actually be incapable of understanding what I am saying. The Bible disagrees with itself. You know that, right? Therefore, in order to have an interpretation that values the whole Bible, you have to get past the concept of Biblical Fact. What can we learn from both Nehemiah and Ruth, despite them being so inconsistent with each other, and written at more or less the same time? The multiple creation stories? The four Gospels? I'd go into further detail, but I have hashed them over and over in talks with Jeordam so many times here and at Wotmania that I doubt other people want to read them again.

We are not ignoring any part of the Bible (though, as I admitted before, I can miss parts occasionally when dashing off a Messageboard reply. Are you gonna talk about my concession on the Paul's saying or just pretend I didn't make it?) rather, we are working with the work as a whole, which is something that no self-avowed "literalist" ever does. They can't, because if they did, then they would have to call one verse "right" and the other verse "wrong".


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Presbyterian Church (USA) passes Amendment 10-A. - 11/05/2011 05:39:29 PM 1604 Views
*NM* - 11/05/2011 06:10:26 PM 413 Views
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Oh, is that how we're playing this, then? - 13/05/2011 06:29:31 PM 1028 Views
Re: Oh, is that how we're playing this, then? - 13/05/2011 07:02:35 PM 1003 Views
I'm not playing. I'm pointing out some glaring errors on your part. - 13/05/2011 07:25:08 PM 928 Views
Danny will correct me if I'm wrong, but... - 13/05/2011 09:55:14 PM 1118 Views
Danny persistently refuses to say that - 13/05/2011 10:13:55 PM 1061 Views
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You're a fucking moron. *NM* - 15/05/2011 11:11:08 PM 468 Views
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Read Judges. - 12/05/2011 07:17:29 PM 987 Views
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I rest my case *NM* - 12/05/2011 04:48:32 PM 430 Views
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Cool cool. I have a question on a semi-related note, about Protestant Gospels - 12/05/2011 05:33:49 PM 1033 Views
Since I haven't gotten around to asking yet... - 13/05/2011 07:14:01 PM 944 Views
Re: Since I haven't gotten around to asking yet... - 15/05/2011 03:18:23 PM 1374 Views

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