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Yes and no, but I'd think an international network trying to kill you would motivate self education. Joel Send a noteboard - 06/05/2011 01:57:06 AM
There are lots of ways to look at it, so the question as you put it isn't an easy one to answer.

On the one hand, a lot of education, including history, is notoriously unengaging even when the topic itself is fascinating. Unfortunately, a lot of teachers have a knack for making even things like WWII far less captivating for students than it was for combatants, and that's not the kids fault.

On the other hand, while rebellious juvenile disinterest in and disrespect for everything they feel their elders foolishly but falsely consider important is inevitable in every generation, that doesn't excuse it. Parents and educators can only do so much to attract and hold the attention of kids contemptuous of values and priorities dismissed as outmoded and obsolete.

Most of the time neither educators nor students fit neatly into such broad generalizations. I had a few bad history teachers in school reduce the Age of Discovery and the Renaissance to the most tedious rote memorization of names, dates and places; more common were good history teachers whose other students regularly thanked me for engaging them in detailed discussion of some pivotal historic event for the entire class period and thereby allowing my fellow students to enjoy their walkman, hit on each other and generally avoid learning anything for an hour. The system isn't perfect, and teachers have to make an effort to engage often apathetic students by any means necessary; those who don't make the effort get the bulk of the blame for not trying, but those who do can't force their students to care about the subject.

All of THAT said, I'm not sure anything teenagers are old enough to remember if they weren't too busy with more important trivia qualifies as "recent history". That seems closer to "current events", or at least recent events. Getting back to my subject line, I think the rule of thumb should be that if the person who murdered thousands in the middle of your country is still out there trying to murder you and anyone else they can find, it's not history. More importantly, anyone with more important things to do than pay attention to the international group trying to murder them has a great chance of being murdered, not without notice, just without noticing.
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OK, Once and for All, WTF Is WRONG with Kids Today? - 04/05/2011 01:28:52 AM 1672 Views
Cool story bro. *NM* - 04/05/2011 01:35:29 AM 509 Views
Clearly not. - 04/05/2011 02:16:08 AM 1079 Views
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The SEALS won. - 04/05/2011 02:17:41 AM 950 Views
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I guess I have a pretty bright Child. and a good school district. - 04/05/2011 04:28:24 AM 970 Views
Hopefully, and presumably respectable parenting skills. - 06/05/2011 01:32:02 AM 1129 Views
You really have to wonder if our culture is decadent? *NM* - 04/05/2011 06:24:25 AM 528 Views
Not at all, but it does make me wonder if we're TOO decadent. - 06/05/2011 01:38:42 AM 969 Views
I agree. *NM* - 09/05/2011 10:36:40 PM 608 Views
How is it the kids' fault that they are not taught (to care) about recent history? *NM* - 04/05/2011 06:54:16 AM 503 Views
I just asked my son, and he said he was a boss of a criminal organisation who was responsible for - 04/05/2011 06:56:18 AM 973 Views
Good enough for me, thanks. - 06/05/2011 01:59:40 AM 984 Views
Yes and no, but I'd think an international network trying to kill you would motivate self education. - 06/05/2011 01:57:06 AM 1081 Views
Good teachers don't allow overeager students to monopolize the classroom. - 06/05/2011 02:52:27 AM 1101 Views
We covered the material. - 06/05/2011 02:57:52 AM 1126 Views
Which means... not a good teacher. - 06/05/2011 07:02:44 AM 860 Views
Good luck with that. - 06/05/2011 11:51:48 PM 1001 Views
If they don't know about the terrorist organisation to begin with, why would they self educate? - 13/05/2011 08:06:07 AM 967 Views
If completely ignorant of terrorism itself, they wouldn't, but if not I'd expect they'd get informed - 14/05/2011 03:01:37 AM 933 Views
What?!? There are terrorists roaming the US, killing kids in their beds?!? - 14/05/2011 07:45:27 AM 1083 Views
They're certainly trying. - 14/05/2011 10:43:48 AM 992 Views
Oklahoma city bombing was by American citizens, completely unrelated to Al Qaeda... - 15/05/2011 08:02:11 AM 1180 Views
They were both terrorist attacks. - 15/05/2011 02:53:51 PM 1137 Views
Obesity is a much bigger killer than terrorists - 15/05/2011 04:01:51 PM 996 Views
Sure, but obesity covers a lot of ground. - 15/05/2011 04:19:51 PM 990 Views
Obesity is a new problem - 15/05/2011 06:09:33 PM 988 Views
only about a third of the home schooled kids are home schooled for religious reasons - 16/05/2011 09:35:36 PM 1070 Views
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getting your kid in the right school can be a challenge - 17/05/2011 06:18:04 PM 859 Views
how many times have i told you "it's the internet, it's not real life"?? *NM* - 04/05/2011 07:43:01 AM 538 Views
Sure, but in this case they intersect. - 06/05/2011 02:02:19 AM 1034 Views
I met a lady who didn't know who Justin Bieber was. I told her I was very impressed - 04/05/2011 06:49:49 PM 1055 Views
You should be? - 06/05/2011 02:09:47 AM 1089 Views
He may have been dreaming about killing them but he was actually doing anything *NM* - 06/05/2011 03:09:49 AM 562 Views
The short answer is "yes". - 06/05/2011 03:19:31 AM 973 Views
you would of have had to know who he is to know he was doing that though *NM* - 08/05/2011 06:16:39 PM 481 Views
Yes, and the fact he WAS doing that is why I expected nearly everyone to know who he was. - 08/05/2011 07:12:41 PM 986 Views
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I get that, it's the size of the "some" that kinda floors me. - 09/05/2011 05:02:46 PM 977 Views
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see that is why political comedy isn't really comedy - 10/05/2011 02:15:48 PM 930 Views
He was a college offensive lineman. - 12/05/2011 01:47:52 AM 1014 Views
It was the media tqaking offense not just internet nutjobs - 13/05/2011 04:16:34 AM 1089 Views
You're "the media" now? - 13/05/2011 10:27:42 PM 1096 Views
you live in a fantasy world *NM* - 16/05/2011 02:27:20 PM 496 Views
Not a rebuttal. - 16/05/2011 09:10:33 PM 981 Views
I am trying to be more concise and that summed it up *NM* - 16/05/2011 09:26:32 PM 495 Views
Concise is nice, but that response was solely about me rather than my arguments. - 18/05/2011 11:30:38 PM 946 Views
No it was about your reply I am just to lazy to break it down - 19/05/2011 12:54:38 AM 906 Views
"You live in a fantasy world" is 100% about me. - 19/05/2011 01:53:07 AM 799 Views
OK *NM* - 19/05/2011 03:15:04 PM 454 Views
Check. - 20/05/2011 12:08:24 AM 1244 Views
13-17 year olds. - 05/05/2011 01:51:27 AM 1160 Views
Call me crazy, but I tend to notice people who want to kill me when they've shown the ability. - 06/05/2011 02:53:26 AM 981 Views
Re: Call me crazy, but I tend to notice people who want to kill me when they've shown the ability. - 06/05/2011 09:21:10 PM 1044 Views
As I asked below, did you click the link? - 06/05/2011 11:35:45 PM 878 Views
Re: As I asked below, did you click the link? - 09/05/2011 05:37:29 AM 884 Views
And yet you found a way; full marks for effort. - 09/05/2011 07:50:32 AM 1191 Views
Thanks for the mis-analogizing. - 10/05/2011 06:26:40 AM 1361 Views
Not a mis-analogy, but perhaps ambiguous. - 10/05/2011 07:02:31 AM 984 Views
Re: Not a mis-analogy, but perhaps ambiguous. - 10/05/2011 04:58:59 PM 1005 Views
Re: Not a mis-analogy, but perhaps ambiguous. - 12/05/2011 01:22:38 AM 958 Views
Re: 13-17 year olds. - 06/05/2011 09:14:47 PM 962 Views
What are you doing to earn a living now? *NM* - 05/05/2011 03:04:28 AM 505 Views
Jeg øver norsk, men ikke mer nå. - 06/05/2011 02:54:44 AM 957 Views
Debt collection is kind - 06/05/2011 07:16:53 AM 913 Views
Just don't repeatedly say you're seriously buying tickets to come kill them. - 06/05/2011 11:40:51 PM 883 Views
Theres a reason you're banned from skype chat. Dont be a cunt - 07/05/2011 02:22:30 AM 940 Views
it must be a very good reason if they haven't banned you as well - 09/05/2011 05:09:07 PM 919 Views
And that is your analysis? Really. Kids sure are dumb to ask questions and do research. - 06/05/2011 10:15:41 PM 881 Views
I wish there were an applause smiley. - 06/05/2011 11:02:01 PM 968 Views
I don't think the article says much of anything at all. - 07/05/2011 03:28:35 AM 836 Views
Maybe; I don't always appreciate deadpan jokes online.... - 07/05/2011 03:43:51 AM 1061 Views
I think the linguistic conventions governing search engines and typical conversation differ is all. - 07/05/2011 04:00:38 AM 918 Views
Hopefully that's all it is. - 07/05/2011 04:17:21 AM 894 Views
actually, search engines are getting better towards "questions" now - 11/05/2011 11:06:42 PM 881 Views
Fair enough then, if surprising; objection withdrawn. - 12/05/2011 01:17:28 AM 1033 Views
I think you're reading too much into this - 10/05/2011 12:58:20 AM 992 Views
Possibly; I really hope so. - 10/05/2011 04:01:50 AM 912 Views
Re: Possibly; I really hope so. - 10/05/2011 05:18:43 AM 1014 Views
Again, fair enough. - 12/05/2011 01:52:07 AM 956 Views
Re: Again, fair enough. - 12/05/2011 02:04:53 AM 995 Views
Acknowledged. - 12/05/2011 02:41:38 AM 956 Views
HA! - 12/05/2011 10:50:50 PM 1154 Views

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